07-08-2010, 10:59 AM
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I wasn't trying to be a douche.
1. Scarey was certainly implying that Vitter's plate discipline had improved, and I was merely pointing out that a .250 on-base % isn't exactly a roaring endorsement of said theory.
2. Jason Heyward was drafted 14th that year, not 12th. Scouts (according to an SI article) knew he was sublime, but the reason he fell so low was that he was considered to have too MUCH plate discipline.
3. Perhaps we should err on the side of too much instead of too little, eh?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
as always, I love ya kb, but you are comically unfair. I just looked up roughly 6 or 7 mock drafts for the 2007 draft. Exactly zero of them had Weiters or Heyward going before Vitters. The lowest they had Vitters going was 4. The highest was 2. The highest they had Heyward was 10.
Picking Vitters over Heyward, in 2007, when the GMs did not have the luxury of 3 years of pro ball experience to make their judgments, was the consensus pick. To look back on it now, and pretend that it's remotely honest to blame Wilken/Hendry for not knowing how those 2 players careers would look in 2010, is ridiculous.
I wasn't trying to be a douche.
1. Scarey was certainly implying that Vitter's plate discipline had improved, and I was merely pointing out that a .250 on-base % isn't exactly a roaring endorsement of said theory.
2. Jason Heyward was drafted 14th that year, not 12th. Scouts (according to an SI article) knew he was sublime, but the reason he fell so low was that he was considered to have too MUCH plate discipline.
3. Perhaps we should err on the side of too much instead of too little, eh?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
as always, I love ya kb, but you are comically unfair. I just looked up roughly 6 or 7 mock drafts for the 2007 draft. Exactly zero of them had Weiters or Heyward going before Vitters. The lowest they had Vitters going was 4. The highest was 2. The highest they had Heyward was 10.
Picking Vitters over Heyward, in 2007, when the GMs did not have the luxury of 3 years of pro ball experience to make their judgments, was the consensus pick. To look back on it now, and pretend that it's remotely honest to blame Wilken/Hendry for not knowing how those 2 players careers would look in 2010, is ridiculous.
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