06-29-2010, 09:43 AM
<!--quoteo(post=103497:date=Jun 29 2010, 07:32 AM:name=Kid)-->QUOTE (Kid @ Jun 29 2010, 07:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=103496:date=Jun 29 2010, 07:57 AM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Jun 29 2010, 07:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=103490:date=Jun 29 2010, 12:32 AM:name=Destined)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Destined @ Jun 29 2010, 12:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=103485:date=Jun 28 2010, 10:13 PM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Jun 28 2010, 10:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=103484:date=Jun 28 2010, 11:34 PM:name=Destined)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Destined @ Jun 28 2010, 11:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=103482:date=Jun 28 2010, 09:02 PM:name=Kid)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid @ Jun 28 2010, 09:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Yeah, I think there are basically 3 examples of this: Sosa, Bradley, & Zambrano.
Bradley & Zambrano were not cases where Hendry could really lower their value. Everything that had happened was already public.
Yes, I think he lowered Sosa's value by releasing that Sosa lied about when he left Wrigley. <b> At the same time, he also had to make the thought of trading Sosa palatable to Cubs fans. A few months before, that had been almost inconceivable.</b>
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Good point.
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Not much of a point. Fan approval of roster moves is a what's overblown. Fans have virtually no role at all in the outcomes of these situations.
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Yeah...it's not like fans don't buy tickets or anything.
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The weather has a bigger impact. And any personnel change is made meaningless by wins and losses. Dumping a player has a bigger economic impact in terms of salary eaten and merchandise put on clearance than in diminished ticket sales. There is no one on the roster who's unceremonious departure wouldn't be forgiven for oh...five or six additional wins.
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For the overwhelming majority of players, you're right. In the case of the rare exception, beloved face of the franchise players like Sosa, you're dead wrong.
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Who do we have right now that qualifies? What were the attendance figures after Sosa was gone?
Edit: Just looked it up. Attendance was up for 2005 over 2004.
Bradley & Zambrano were not cases where Hendry could really lower their value. Everything that had happened was already public.
Yes, I think he lowered Sosa's value by releasing that Sosa lied about when he left Wrigley. <b> At the same time, he also had to make the thought of trading Sosa palatable to Cubs fans. A few months before, that had been almost inconceivable.</b>
The "Hendry kills trade values" theme is overblown at best.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Good point.
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Not much of a point. Fan approval of roster moves is a what's overblown. Fans have virtually no role at all in the outcomes of these situations.
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Yeah...it's not like fans don't buy tickets or anything.
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The weather has a bigger impact. And any personnel change is made meaningless by wins and losses. Dumping a player has a bigger economic impact in terms of salary eaten and merchandise put on clearance than in diminished ticket sales. There is no one on the roster who's unceremonious departure wouldn't be forgiven for oh...five or six additional wins.
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For the overwhelming majority of players, you're right. In the case of the rare exception, beloved face of the franchise players like Sosa, you're dead wrong.
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Who do we have right now that qualifies? What were the attendance figures after Sosa was gone?
Edit: Just looked it up. Attendance was up for 2005 over 2004.