06-28-2010, 05:46 PM
<!--quoteo(post=103433:date=Jun 28 2010, 02:06 PM:name=Kid)-->QUOTE (Kid @ Jun 28 2010, 02:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=103389:date=Jun 28 2010, 12:43 PM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Jun 28 2010, 12:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=103378:date=Jun 28 2010, 11:08 AM:name=Kid)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid @ Jun 28 2010, 11:08 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=103376:date=Jun 28 2010, 12:06 PM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Jun 28 2010, 12:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Imagine being Zanbrano. I don't mean a pitcher with his talent, I mean <i>Zambrano</i>...you know, high strung, emotional, passionate, anger issues...easily frustrated and derailed <i>and</i> talented. Now imagine being him...and pitching with this team's offense and defense to count on. What you'd get is exactly what we got.
I'm not excusing him and he sure could have smarter and called out his team on a day when he wasn't throwing BP in the first inning....but this was inevitable.
Now picture him with another year or two of growing up and pitching for a team that plays solid behind him and gives him all kinds of offense. We may be well rid of him but if he finds the right home, he wins a Cy.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm sorry but that's some apologist bullshit.
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The hell it is. What I'm saying is that if he winds up playing someplace that doesn't trigger all his infantilism, he will be successful.
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I wasn't referring to the latter part of your post. Could Zambrano do better elsewhere? Sure. Just better hope it's a team that commits no errors, because he's been showing teammates up for not making defensive plays for at least 6 years.
But I was referring to the first part of your post. "Zambrano being Zambrano" doesn't justify his behavior.
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Exactly, and I love Zambrano. He's a lot of fun, and his moments of brilliance have been remarkable.
However, that was a lame stunt...and, it needs to be handled.
And...those of you using this to bash Lou and Hendry again...are sticking the wrong criteria inside an awful argument.
I'm not excusing him and he sure could have smarter and called out his team on a day when he wasn't throwing BP in the first inning....but this was inevitable.
Now picture him with another year or two of growing up and pitching for a team that plays solid behind him and gives him all kinds of offense. We may be well rid of him but if he finds the right home, he wins a Cy.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm sorry but that's some apologist bullshit.
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The hell it is. What I'm saying is that if he winds up playing someplace that doesn't trigger all his infantilism, he will be successful.
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I wasn't referring to the latter part of your post. Could Zambrano do better elsewhere? Sure. Just better hope it's a team that commits no errors, because he's been showing teammates up for not making defensive plays for at least 6 years.
But I was referring to the first part of your post. "Zambrano being Zambrano" doesn't justify his behavior.
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Exactly, and I love Zambrano. He's a lot of fun, and his moments of brilliance have been remarkable.
However, that was a lame stunt...and, it needs to be handled.
And...those of you using this to bash Lou and Hendry again...are sticking the wrong criteria inside an awful argument.