06-28-2010, 02:33 PM
<!--quoteo(post=103407:date=Jun 28 2010, 12:14 PM:name=ruby23)-->QUOTE (ruby23 @ Jun 28 2010, 12:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=103396:date=Jun 28 2010, 11:58 AM:name=Scarey)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Scarey @ Jun 28 2010, 11:58 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=103392:date=Jun 28 2010, 11:46 AM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Jun 28 2010, 11:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=103384:date=Jun 28 2010, 11:28 AM:name=Scarey)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Scarey @ Jun 28 2010, 11:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=103381:date=Jun 28 2010, 11:20 AM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Jun 28 2010, 11:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->The Cubs have had a history, in recent times, of taking a bad/uncomfortable/worrisome situation and amplifying it enormously. It just seems that every time there's a bump in the road, the Cubs piss themsleves and end up looking ridiculous/alienating people/diminishing player values. There has to be a better way to handle problems and difficulties and I think that needs to be done by changing leadership and addressing specific players next.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Who though? That's what I'm trying to get out of you.
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Hendry and Lou now. Hendry, Baker, McPhail, et al. previously. There's obviously some other dipshits behind the scenes that have helped perpetrate the stupidity that's been going on for the better part of a decade. Institutionally, it's obvious that there's little control. A philosphy change needs to happen if this team is ever gonna be anything but a laughing stock and an afterthought.
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That's all I was getting at.
Do you believe the Cubs have gone with the same philosophy since Hendry's tenure started? What exactly do you believe that philosophy to be?
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Yes. I think the philosphy is to ignore shit and hope it goes away. Then if something bad happens, try to deflect all blame and put it directly on the player/person the the controversy revolves around. I think they let the inmates run the asylum, then try to blame them when things go awry. I don't think there is an obvious player conduct expectation. Things that are of no consequence one day, all the sudden are problems later. I see no consistency.
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Maybe I should know this, but who is the person that keeps these players in line? I don't think it's the manager. It sounds like maybe something the GM should do, but it also seems like something you shouldn't have to do with grown men.
I guess you can definitely blame the GM for signing these guys in the first place. Should the Cubs next GM put more effort into finding good character players?
Who though? That's what I'm trying to get out of you.
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Hendry and Lou now. Hendry, Baker, McPhail, et al. previously. There's obviously some other dipshits behind the scenes that have helped perpetrate the stupidity that's been going on for the better part of a decade. Institutionally, it's obvious that there's little control. A philosphy change needs to happen if this team is ever gonna be anything but a laughing stock and an afterthought.
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That's all I was getting at.
Do you believe the Cubs have gone with the same philosophy since Hendry's tenure started? What exactly do you believe that philosophy to be?
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Yes. I think the philosphy is to ignore shit and hope it goes away. Then if something bad happens, try to deflect all blame and put it directly on the player/person the the controversy revolves around. I think they let the inmates run the asylum, then try to blame them when things go awry. I don't think there is an obvious player conduct expectation. Things that are of no consequence one day, all the sudden are problems later. I see no consistency.
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Maybe I should know this, but who is the person that keeps these players in line? I don't think it's the manager. It sounds like maybe something the GM should do, but it also seems like something you shouldn't have to do with grown men.
I guess you can definitely blame the GM for signing these guys in the first place. Should the Cubs next GM put more effort into finding good character players?