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[Scarey]

<!--quoteo(post=103138:date=Jun 26 2010, 06:35 PM:name=Chitown)-->QUOTE (Chitown @ Jun 26 2010, 06:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><b>Stats wise Konerko compares very favorably with Lee.</b> Either one is a good choice, I meant PK has more field presence, but that was an opinion, I'm not dissing Lee.
Check out their 162 game averages. Lee better BA, more BB, more SO, better OBP
Konerko more RBI, more HR, fewer SO, fewer BB. That comparison makes me "not knowledgeable"?

Lee
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/...ede02-bat.shtml

Konerko
http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/...rpa01-bat.shtml<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

The bolded statement does in fact make you "not knowledgeable". Key word is favorably. To say that Lee should live up to Konerko in any way, shape, or form is laughable. If you want to argue who the better player is, that could be a very interesting argument that would have good points on both side of the argument. If you wanted to say that you feel Konerko is better, I don't think there's anything wrong with having that opinion. But to say Konerko compares favorably or that Lee should be more like him is idiotic. The stat comparisons you made doesn't show Konerko in a favorable light. You even stated in this post that they each have a slight advantage in different stats. That shows me that neither has an advantage in stats over the other. They are peers.

Also, you're leaving out the facts that Lee has played his entire career in the NL, has won three golden gloves, and finished in the top ten in MVP voting twice. Konerko has spent 10% of his career as a DH, has zero gold gloves, and finished once in the top ten for MVP voting.

If you honestly meant that Konerko has better field presence than Lee, you'll just have to explain to me your definition of field presence. I have no idea how you are quantifying it and why you seem to think Konerko has such a clear advantage over Lee so that Derrek should be asking him for pointers.


<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->And since when was the Giants clubhouse the standard for the industry?
One websites opinion on catchers follows. I am sure you have your opinion too, but it's not like I was out in left field saying he was a good catcher and an asset to the team. Whatever you think of TV announcers I have heard them say th esame thing about AJ.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I made the comments based on your original post that read "... but he's a helluva catcher, has a reasonable to good bat...". To me, since you stated that he was both a helluva catcher and a reasonable to good bat, I thought you were evaluating his ability defensively as a catcher separate from his offensive capabilities. If that's the case, your statement again shows your baseball ignorance seeing as he's well below average defensively. If you were including his offensive capabilities in your "helluva catcher" comment... I would only suggest you structure your points more cohesively.

<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->http://thedugoutdoctors.com/2010/04/power-...s-mlb-catchers/

14. Geovany Soto (Chicago Cubs) – Here’s hoping the slim fast diet worked for him. Fat and lazy could be words used to describe Geovany Soto’s sophomore season. The rookie of the year in 2008 is certainly hoping to rebound. But even in the wake of a dismal season he retains a career OBP near .350 and a slugging percentage in the upper 400’s.

6. A.J Pierzynski(Chicago White Sox) – The guy everyone loves to hate is good at his job. He’s a career .286 hitter, calls a great game, and averages 70 plus RBI’s a season. Sure, his only downfall is he couldn’t throw out your grandma going to second, but he’s also got some of the best baseball instincts for his position.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Awesome. This makes your point in our argument about which catcher is better between Pierzynski and Soto. Let me know when we have that argument.

Better yet, I would ask that you not try to argue baseball here. You're watering down the content with your lack of knowledge.