03-16-2010, 05:18 PM
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->Saw Tennenbaums. Sucked.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'll eat your pancreas.
I'll eat your pancreas.
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The Pacific
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03-16-2010, 05:21 PM
<!--quoteo(post=82944:date=Mar 16 2010, 04:04 PM:name=funkster)-->QUOTE (funkster @ Mar 16 2010, 04:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->So now you're claiming Scorsese shouldn't have done Casino? That's preposterous. Just because the two movies are about the mafia, and are done in the same "style" doesn't mean he shouldn't have done the movie. Casino is a great film, not the masterpiece that goodfellas is, but still one of my favorite movies and extremely well made and acted. If the only films that entertain you are "completely original" material, then I feel sorry that you rarely are entertained.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I think Scorsese's incredibly overrated post "King Of Comedy." "Goodfellas," "Gangs of New York" and "The Departed" were decent." "Casino" wasn't bad but it was more of the same, and Joe Pesce is just awful. Once was enough. 
03-16-2010, 05:21 PM
<!--quoteo(post=82947:date=Mar 16 2010, 04:15 PM:name=jstraw)-->QUOTE (jstraw @ Mar 16 2010, 04:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=82943:date=Mar 16 2010, 04:00 PM:name=BT)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BT @ Mar 16 2010, 04:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=82942:date=Mar 16 2010, 03:53 PM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Mar 16 2010, 03:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=82939:date=Mar 16 2010, 03:41 PM:name=BT)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BT @ Mar 16 2010, 03:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=82935:date=Mar 16 2010, 02:55 PM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Mar 16 2010, 02:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=82934:date=Mar 16 2010, 02:49 PM:name=funkster)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (funkster @ Mar 16 2010, 02:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->It works and they do it well. Its a good story and done in a manner that makes it interesting...that's all you can ask for right?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
No, it's not. The opposite of Ken Burns is the Coen Brothers. New and different stories, told differently. The history buff in me will succumb and watch The Pacific when it's on video. "Let's do what we did before but this time about this similar thing" isn't high concept. It's now ripe for parody. Stephen Spielberg and Tom Hanks present "Grenada." It's a mini-series on HBO in half a part. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> So Scorcese shouldn't have done "Casino" (after Goodfellas)? The Coen's shouldn't have done "Burn After Reading" (after Raising Arizona)? Coppalla shouldn't have done "Godfather 2"? Spielberg shouldn't have done any Indiana Jones after the first one? Wes Anderson shouldn't have done pretty much anything after "Bottle Rocket"? The War in the Pacific is an entirely different animal than the War in Europe. As long as they have a story to tell, I don't see a problem with them revisiting the same genre. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Yes. Manic action comedies separated by how many years? Godfather II was a continuation of the story and the better film. Sequels don't count. Sequels don't count. I'm not sure I've ever seen a Wes Anderson film. I'm gonna watch a series about the war in the Pacific. I'd rather watch one by a different filmmaker with a different visual vocabulary and story telling style. I'd rather Spielburg/Hanks sank their teeth into something other than a multipart dramatization of a theater of war during WWII. I'm sure it will be good. It just doesn't seem like the most interesting approach to this story or the most interesting thing for this pair to do. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Wrong What would separation of years have to do with anything? When does the statute of limitations expire on "Band of Brothers"? How is "The Pacific" any different than "a continuation of the story" or a sequel? Why not? Rushmore? Royal Tennenbaums? <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Ok. Never. Maybe Spielberg/Hanks should just be the official WWII guys from now on. Because sometimes a filmmaker plans a series. Indiana Jones was based on serialized adventure films. Saw Tennenbaums. Sucked. You can't debate me into becoming excited about WWII with artillery fire blowing up palm trees as a whole new dramatic motif. They told the last story well and I'll watch this but I anticipate a buttload of familiarity. More sweat, less frostbite. Bataan Death March instead of the camps...more sailors and marines, fewer infantry. They can do this justice and still be predictable. I'm predicting predictability. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Wow. Royal Tennenbaums is a GREAT flick. I guess I can understand someone not liking it, but to say it sucked is strange. That's a whole other argument. As a self described "history buff" familiarity to a story might be a problem for you. 
03-16-2010, 05:23 PM
<!--quoteo(post=82950:date=Mar 16 2010, 04:21 PM:name=jstraw)-->QUOTE (jstraw @ Mar 16 2010, 04:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=82944:date=Mar 16 2010, 04:04 PM:name=funkster)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (funkster @ Mar 16 2010, 04:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->So now you're claiming Scorsese shouldn't have done Casino? That's preposterous. Just because the two movies are about the mafia, and are done in the same "style" doesn't mean he shouldn't have done the movie. Casino is a great film, not the masterpiece that goodfellas is, but still one of my favorite movies and extremely well made and acted. If the only films that entertain you are "completely original" material, then I feel sorry that you rarely are entertained.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I think Scorsese's incredibly overrated post "King Of Comedy." "Goodfellas," "Gangs of New York" and "The Departed" were decent." "Casino" wasn't bad but it was more of the same, and Joe Pesce is just awful. Once was enough. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Holy fuck.
03-16-2010, 05:26 PM
<!--quoteo(post=82952:date=Mar 16 2010, 04:23 PM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Mar 16 2010, 04:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=82950:date=Mar 16 2010, 04:21 PM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Mar 16 2010, 04:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=82944:date=Mar 16 2010, 04:04 PM:name=funkster)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (funkster @ Mar 16 2010, 04:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->So now you're claiming Scorsese shouldn't have done Casino? That's preposterous. Just because the two movies are about the mafia, and are done in the same "style" doesn't mean he shouldn't have done the movie. Casino is a great film, not the masterpiece that goodfellas is, but still one of my favorite movies and extremely well made and acted. If the only films that entertain you are "completely original" material, then I feel sorry that you rarely are entertained.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I think Scorsese's incredibly overrated post "King Of Comedy." "Goodfellas," "Gangs of New York" and "The Departed" were decent." "Casino" wasn't bad but it was more of the same, and Joe Pesce is just awful. Once was enough. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Holy fuck. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> We don't all like the same things but only a retard thinks Joe Pesce can act.
03-16-2010, 05:28 PM
Ugh. Joe Pesci was awful? Seriously? How can you possibly argue that he didn't turn in great acting performances in both movies regardless of what you thought of the characters or of Pesci himself? I am not talking about his acting in other movies.
"but only a retard thinks Joe Pesce can act" You seem intelligent, don't go there....we're all adults. We can get into a healthy debate without taking it back to grade school. 
03-16-2010, 05:29 PM
<!--quoteo(post=82952:date=Mar 16 2010, 04:23 PM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Mar 16 2010, 04:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=82950:date=Mar 16 2010, 04:21 PM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Mar 16 2010, 04:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=82944:date=Mar 16 2010, 04:04 PM:name=funkster)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (funkster @ Mar 16 2010, 04:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->So now you're claiming Scorsese shouldn't have done Casino? That's preposterous. Just because the two movies are about the mafia, and are done in the same "style" doesn't mean he shouldn't have done the movie. Casino is a great film, not the masterpiece that goodfellas is, but still one of my favorite movies and extremely well made and acted. If the only films that entertain you are "completely original" material, then I feel sorry that you rarely are entertained.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I think Scorsese's incredibly overrated post "King Of Comedy." "Goodfellas," "Gangs of New York" and "The Departed" were decent." "Casino" wasn't bad but it was more of the same, and Joe Pesce is just awful. Once was enough. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Holy fuck. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Ditto. I have nothing to say other than agree to disagree. The only movie that I am lukewarm on of the above is Gangs of NY.
03-16-2010, 05:30 PM
<!--quoteo(post=82954:date=Mar 16 2010, 04:26 PM:name=jstraw)-->QUOTE (jstraw @ Mar 16 2010, 04:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=82952:date=Mar 16 2010, 04:23 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Mar 16 2010, 04:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=82950:date=Mar 16 2010, 04:21 PM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Mar 16 2010, 04:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=82944:date=Mar 16 2010, 04:04 PM:name=funkster)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (funkster @ Mar 16 2010, 04:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->So now you're claiming Scorsese shouldn't have done Casino? That's preposterous. Just because the two movies are about the mafia, and are done in the same "style" doesn't mean he shouldn't have done the movie. Casino is a great film, not the masterpiece that goodfellas is, but still one of my favorite movies and extremely well made and acted. If the only films that entertain you are "completely original" material, then I feel sorry that you rarely are entertained.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I think Scorsese's incredibly overrated post "King Of Comedy." "Goodfellas," "Gangs of New York" and "The Departed" were decent." "Casino" wasn't bad but it was more of the same, and Joe Pesce is just awful. Once was enough. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Holy fuck. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> We don't all like the same things but only a retard thinks Joe Pesce can act. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Then I guess I need to go buy a helmet and a drool cup.
03-16-2010, 05:30 PM
<!--quoteo(post=82955:date=Mar 16 2010, 04:28 PM:name=funkster)-->QUOTE (funkster @ Mar 16 2010, 04:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Ugh. Joe Pesce was awful? Seriously? How can you possibly argue that he didn't turn in great acting performances in both movies regardless of what you thought of the characters or of Pesce himself?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I don't think he's ever turned in a good performance in anything. He was the weak link in "Raging Bull."
03-16-2010, 05:30 PM
<!--quoteo(post=82954:date=Mar 16 2010, 04:26 PM:name=jstraw)-->QUOTE (jstraw @ Mar 16 2010, 04:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=82952:date=Mar 16 2010, 04:23 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Mar 16 2010, 04:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=82950:date=Mar 16 2010, 04:21 PM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Mar 16 2010, 04:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=82944:date=Mar 16 2010, 04:04 PM:name=funkster)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (funkster @ Mar 16 2010, 04:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->So now you're claiming Scorsese shouldn't have done Casino? That's preposterous. Just because the two movies are about the mafia, and are done in the same "style" doesn't mean he shouldn't have done the movie. Casino is a great film, not the masterpiece that goodfellas is, but still one of my favorite movies and extremely well made and acted. If the only films that entertain you are "completely original" material, then I feel sorry that you rarely are entertained.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I think Scorsese's incredibly overrated post "King Of Comedy." "Goodfellas," "Gangs of New York" and "The Departed" were decent." "Casino" wasn't bad but it was more of the same, and Joe Pesce is just awful. Once was enough. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Holy fuck. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> We don't all like the same things but only a retard thinks Joe Pesce can act. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Pesci. And you're nuts. Pesci might be a one-trick pony (that's as far as I'm willing to go), but he's fucking awesome at that one trick.
03-16-2010, 05:33 PM
<!--quoteo(post=82959:date=Mar 16 2010, 04:30 PM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Mar 16 2010, 04:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=82954:date=Mar 16 2010, 04:26 PM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Mar 16 2010, 04:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=82952:date=Mar 16 2010, 04:23 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Mar 16 2010, 04:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=82950:date=Mar 16 2010, 04:21 PM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Mar 16 2010, 04:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=82944:date=Mar 16 2010, 04:04 PM:name=funkster)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (funkster @ Mar 16 2010, 04:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->So now you're claiming Scorsese shouldn't have done Casino? That's preposterous. Just because the two movies are about the mafia, and are done in the same "style" doesn't mean he shouldn't have done the movie. Casino is a great film, not the masterpiece that goodfellas is, but still one of my favorite movies and extremely well made and acted. If the only films that entertain you are "completely original" material, then I feel sorry that you rarely are entertained.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I think Scorsese's incredibly overrated post "King Of Comedy." "Goodfellas," "Gangs of New York" and "The Departed" were decent." "Casino" wasn't bad but it was more of the same, and Joe Pesce is just awful. Once was enough. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Holy fuck. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> We don't all like the same things but only a retard thinks Joe Pesce can act. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Pesci. And you're nuts. Pesci might be a one-trick pony (that's as far as I'm willing to go), but he's fucking awesome at that one trick. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Yup. If he's a shitty actor, then his three outliers were Raging Bull, Goodfellas, and Casino.
03-16-2010, 05:34 PM
Movies that Pesci was good to very good in:
Raging Bull Easy Money Once Upon a Time in America Lethal Weapon 2 Goodfellas JFK Casino My Cousin Vinny Not saying he is a great actor, but he doesn't suck.
03-16-2010, 05:34 PM
<!--quoteo(post=82959:date=Mar 16 2010, 04:30 PM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Mar 16 2010, 04:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=82954:date=Mar 16 2010, 04:26 PM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Mar 16 2010, 04:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=82952:date=Mar 16 2010, 04:23 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Mar 16 2010, 04:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=82950:date=Mar 16 2010, 04:21 PM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Mar 16 2010, 04:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=82944:date=Mar 16 2010, 04:04 PM:name=funkster)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (funkster @ Mar 16 2010, 04:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->So now you're claiming Scorsese shouldn't have done Casino? That's preposterous. Just because the two movies are about the mafia, and are done in the same "style" doesn't mean he shouldn't have done the movie. Casino is a great film, not the masterpiece that goodfellas is, but still one of my favorite movies and extremely well made and acted. If the only films that entertain you are "completely original" material, then I feel sorry that you rarely are entertained.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I think Scorsese's incredibly overrated post "King Of Comedy." "Goodfellas," "Gangs of New York" and "The Departed" were decent." "Casino" wasn't bad but it was more of the same, and Joe Pesce is just awful. Once was enough. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Holy fuck. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> We don't all like the same things but only a retard thinks Joe Pesce can act. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Pesci. And you're nuts. Pesci might be a one-trick pony (that's as far as I'm willing to go), but he's fucking awesome at that one trick. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> A trick is good only the first time you see it. And so I'm nuts. I'm too old to give a shit whether anyone shares my likes or dislikes...unless we're talking about baseball.
03-16-2010, 05:36 PM
<!--quoteo(post=82961:date=Mar 16 2010, 04:34 PM:name=rok)-->QUOTE (rok @ Mar 16 2010, 04:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Movies that Pesci was good to very good in:
Raging Bull Easy Money Once Upon a Time in America Lethal Weapon 2 Goodfellas JFK Casino My Cousin Vinny Not saying he is a great actor, but he doesn't suck.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> he was at his very best in Once Upon A Time In America.
03-16-2010, 05:36 PM
<!--quoteo(post=82962:date=Mar 16 2010, 04:34 PM:name=jstraw)-->QUOTE (jstraw @ Mar 16 2010, 04:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=82959:date=Mar 16 2010, 04:30 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Mar 16 2010, 04:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=82954:date=Mar 16 2010, 04:26 PM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Mar 16 2010, 04:26 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=82952:date=Mar 16 2010, 04:23 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Mar 16 2010, 04:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=82950:date=Mar 16 2010, 04:21 PM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Mar 16 2010, 04:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=82944:date=Mar 16 2010, 04:04 PM:name=funkster)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (funkster @ Mar 16 2010, 04:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->So now you're claiming Scorsese shouldn't have done Casino? That's preposterous. Just because the two movies are about the mafia, and are done in the same "style" doesn't mean he shouldn't have done the movie. Casino is a great film, not the masterpiece that goodfellas is, but still one of my favorite movies and extremely well made and acted. If the only films that entertain you are "completely original" material, then I feel sorry that you rarely are entertained.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I think Scorsese's incredibly overrated post "King Of Comedy." "Goodfellas," "Gangs of New York" and "The Departed" were decent." "Casino" wasn't bad but it was more of the same, and Joe Pesce is just awful. Once was enough. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Holy fuck. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> We don't all like the same things but only a retard thinks Joe Pesce can act. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Pesci. And you're nuts. Pesci might be a one-trick pony (that's as far as I'm willing to go), but he's fucking awesome at that one trick. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> A trick is good only the first time you see it. And so I'm nuts. I'm too old to give a shit whether anyone shares my likes or dislikes...unless we're talking about baseball. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> And I guess I'm retarded. |
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