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<!--quoteo(post=82321:date=Mar 10 2010, 10:22 PM:name=biggz)-->QUOTE (biggz @ Mar 10 2010, 10:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I knew this guy named Tim. He was a nice guy. Made some mistakes, but also did some good things. Basically, your average Joe. He met this girl, and she was just an absolute bombshell. Think RuPaul in drag. Anyways, this chick had a reputation as sort of a hot head. My friend didn't care, though, since she also had a reputation for being wild in the sack. The courtship went really well, and they shared a nice spring break. I though things were moving a little fast, but my friend wouldn't hear of it, and soon she had moved into his place. From there, it was a downhill. She talked shit about his friends, was rude in front of his family, took money from him without asking, and, to top it all off, she was hideous without her makeup on and would only have sex on coke. The final straw was when she got drunk and crashed his car. The next day, he tossed her shit out of his apartment and had the landlord change the locks. To this day, she still brings their relationship up and blames him for all the shit she pulled.
The worst part for Tim was the skeez he slept with after psycho ex-girlfriend bitch. This ho was missing teeth, was morbidly obese, and was generally unhygienic and unkempt. Not to mention she had already let a lot of people score on her. Thankfully, that didn't last long and I think he was probably drunk when it happened. I think her name was Carla, or something.
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I know Desipio gets mixed reactions from many here, but their latest on Milton is pretty good, even if much of it rehashes old news, but with more details of which I wasn't aware.
http://www.desipio.com/?p=2809
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<!--quoteo(post=82351:date=Mar 11 2010, 11:27 AM:name=rok)-->QUOTE (rok @ Mar 11 2010, 11:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I know Desipio gets mixed reactions from many here, but their latest on Milton is pretty good, even if much of it rehashes old news, but with more details of which I wasn't aware.
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I really like Desipio at least 75% of the time.
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<!--quoteo(post=82321:date=Mar 10 2010, 10:22 PM:name=biggz)-->QUOTE (biggz @ Mar 10 2010, 10:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I knew this guy named Tim. He was a nice guy. Made some mistakes, but also did some good things. Basically, your average Joe. He met this girl, and she was just an absolute bombshell. Think RuPaul in drag. Anyways, this chick had a reputation as sort of a hot head. My friend didn't care, though, since she also had a reputation for being wild in the sack. The courtship went really well, and they shared a nice spring break. I though things were moving a little fast, but my friend wouldn't hear of it, and soon she had moved into his place. From there, it was a downhill. She talked shit about his friends, was rude in front of his family, took money from him without asking, and, to top it all off, she was hideous without her makeup on and would only have sex on coke. The final straw was when she got drunk and crashed his car. The next day, he tossed her shit out of his apartment and had the landlord change the locks. To this day, she still brings their relationship up and blames him for all the shit she pulled.
The worst part for Tim was the skeez he slept with after psycho ex-girlfriend bitch. This ho was missing teeth, was morbidly obese, and was generally unhygienic and unkempt. Not to mention she had already let a lot of people score on her. Thankfully, that didn't last long and I think he was probably drunk when it happened. I think her name was Carla, or something.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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Are you calling Marlon Byrd Skeeze who is missing teeth, morbidly obese, and generally unhygienic and unkempt? Im assuming the first part was somewhat about how Bradley fools people into "getting into bed" with him
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<!--quoteo(post=82351:date=Mar 11 2010, 11:27 AM:name=rok)-->QUOTE (rok @ Mar 11 2010, 11:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I know Desipio gets mixed reactions from many here, but their latest on Milton is pretty good, even if much of it rehashes old news, but with more details of which I wasn't aware.
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There are several incidents in the Desipio recounting that I'd never heard about.
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Ha...everytime I hear or read the name Phil Nevin it reminds me of Evan's hatred for him.
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Here's my take, for what it's worth: http://www.bleachernation.com/2010/03/11/t...milton-bradley/
It focuses on Hendry, not Bradley.
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<!--quoteo(post=82394:date=Mar 11 2010, 05:11 PM:name=Ace)-->QUOTE (Ace @ Mar 11 2010, 05:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Here's my take, for what it's worth: http://www.bleachernation.com/2010/03/11/t...milton-bradley/
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Yea, I don't agree with any of that.
If Angelo had picked McClellin, I would have been expecting to hear by training camp that kid has stage 4 cancer, is actually 5'2" 142 lbs, is a chick who played in a 7 - 0 defensive scheme who only rotated in on downs which were 3 and 34 yds + so is not expecting to play a down in the NFL until the sex change is complete and she puts on another 100 lbs. + but this is Emery's first pick so he'll get a pass with a bit of questioning. - 1060Ivy
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<!--quoteo(post=82403:date=Mar 11 2010, 07:51 PM:name=bz)-->QUOTE (bz @ Mar 11 2010, 07:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=82394:date=Mar 11 2010, 05:11 PM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Mar 11 2010, 05:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Here's my take, for what it's worth: http://www.bleachernation.com/2010/03/11/t...milton-bradley/
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Yea, I don't agree with any of that.
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Any of it? So you believe that Jim Hendry traded Milton Bradley because of his "lack of production"?
I'd love to hear you back that up.
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I don't know, I don't think it really matters what he said I guess. He said what he needed to say to clear the air and still tried to save face. I didn't really get the vibe that he was insisting he traded him *only* for lack of production. More that his lack of production is what caused the negativity. I know that's not what the exact quote says, but I don't think the way he said it was a big deal.
I have been hard on Hendry the last couple of years, and to be honest, I don't know how he still has a job after EVERY move he made last season imploded, but I respect the way he has handled Bradley. He admitted his mistake and tired to fix it as best as he could after the mistake was made.
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<!--quoteo(post=82405:date=Mar 11 2010, 08:07 PM:name=Fella)-->QUOTE (Fella @ Mar 11 2010, 08:07 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I don't know, I don't think it really matters what he said I guess. He said what he needed to say to clear the air and still tried to save face. I didn't really get the vibe that he was insisting he traded him *only* for lack of production. More that his lack of production is what caused the negativity. I know that's not what the exact quote says, but I don't think the way he said it was a big deal.
I have been hard on Hendry the last couple of years, and to be honest, I don't know how he still has a job after EVERY move he made last season imploded, but I respect the way he has handled Bradley. He admitted his mistake and tired to fix it as best as he could after the mistake was made.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
But he DIDN'T admit his mistake, Fella. That's what really pisses me off. His mistake was signing a guy with OBVIOUS character problems, and then when those character problems were the REASON the guy didn't work out, he is forced to trade him.
The only "mistake" Hendry now admits to is signing a guy who "didn't produce." Hendry's mistake was far, far worse than that. Signing a guy who sucks is a mistake that EVERY GM makes every year. Signing Milton Bradley to a multi-year, big money deal? That's a mistake that only ONE GM has ever made.
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<!--quoteo(post=82404:date=Mar 11 2010, 07:00 PM:name=Ace)-->QUOTE (Ace @ Mar 11 2010, 07:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=82403:date=Mar 11 2010, 07:51 PM:name=bz)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bz @ Mar 11 2010, 07:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=82394:date=Mar 11 2010, 05:11 PM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Mar 11 2010, 05:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Here's my take, for what it's worth: http://www.bleachernation.com/2010/03/11/t...milton-bradley/
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Yea, I don't agree with any of that.
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So you believe that Jim Hendry traded Milton Bradley because of his "lack of production"?
I'd love to hear you back that up.
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Bottom line...he didn't perform. If he would have hit .321/.436/.563 he would have got a pass on his dickishness. People wouldn't boo him because he was raking, and he wouldn't have needed to find ways to justify his non-performance...the fans, the media, the city, the other voices in his head. If Reggie Jackson performed to 2/3rds of his expectations he would have been booed out of New York. He would have said awful things about the fans and the city. But because he did live up to expectations all of the sideshow was mostly avoided. He was still a dick and a bad team mate, but he hit well which is what he is paid to do. Bradley didn't hit, he got booed, the media went after him, his team couldn't justify or write off his poor personality, and the whole thing spiraled out of control. If he hit he would have been just an asshole who played well. He didn't hit, and we see what happened.
If Angelo had picked McClellin, I would have been expecting to hear by training camp that kid has stage 4 cancer, is actually 5'2" 142 lbs, is a chick who played in a 7 - 0 defensive scheme who only rotated in on downs which were 3 and 34 yds + so is not expecting to play a down in the NFL until the sex change is complete and she puts on another 100 lbs. + but this is Emery's first pick so he'll get a pass with a bit of questioning. - 1060Ivy
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<!--quoteo(post=82407:date=Mar 11 2010, 08:11 PM:name=bz)-->QUOTE (bz @ Mar 11 2010, 08:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=82404:date=Mar 11 2010, 07:00 PM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Mar 11 2010, 07:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=82403:date=Mar 11 2010, 07:51 PM:name=bz)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bz @ Mar 11 2010, 07:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=82394:date=Mar 11 2010, 05:11 PM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Mar 11 2010, 05:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Here's my take, for what it's worth: http://www.bleachernation.com/2010/03/11/t...milton-bradley/
It focuses on Hendry, not Bradley.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yea, I don't agree with any of that.
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So you believe that Jim Hendry traded Milton Bradley because of his "lack of production"?
I'd love to hear you back that up.
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Bottom line...he didn't perform. If he would have hit .321/.436/.563 he would have got a pass on his dickishness. People wouldn't boo him because he was raking, and he wouldn't have needed to find ways to justify his non-performance...the fans, the media, the city, the other voices in his head. If Reggie Jackson performed to 2/3rds of his expectations he would have been booed out of New York. He would have said awful things about the fans and the city. But because he did live up to expectations all of the sideshow was mostly avoided. He was still a dick and a bad team mate, but he hit well which is what he is paid to do. Bradley didn't hit, he got booed, the media went after him, his team couldn't justify or write off his poor personality, and the whole thing spiraled out of control. If he hit he would have been just an asshole who played well. He didn't hit, and we see what happened.
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But beez, we both know that's not why he was traded. Are you telling me that if he had been an angel, but had put up "only" a .775 OPS (with a .378 OBP), Hendry would have dumped him for Carlos Silva?
Of course not. Bradley was dumped because he was a horrible teammate and a headcase douche. And that's a red flag that Hendry KNEW about when he signed him.
I get your point, that if he'd been all universe at the plate, the Cubs probably would have found a reason to keep him. But that's not what actually happened. What actually happened, is he was slightly below average in performance, and the worst possible teammate ever. And the latter was the obvious reason he was dumped. To say otherwise is a revisionist history, and is why Hendry is really pissing me off.
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<!--quoteo(post=82408:date=Mar 11 2010, 07:13 PM:name=Ace)-->QUOTE (Ace @ Mar 11 2010, 07:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=82407:date=Mar 11 2010, 08:11 PM:name=bz)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bz @ Mar 11 2010, 08:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=82404:date=Mar 11 2010, 07:00 PM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Mar 11 2010, 07:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=82403:date=Mar 11 2010, 07:51 PM:name=bz)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (bz @ Mar 11 2010, 07:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=82394:date=Mar 11 2010, 05:11 PM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Mar 11 2010, 05:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Here's my take, for what it's worth: http://www.bleachernation.com/2010/03/11/t...milton-bradley/
It focuses on Hendry, not Bradley.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yea, I don't agree with any of that.
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So you believe that Jim Hendry traded Milton Bradley because of his "lack of production"?
I'd love to hear you back that up.
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Bottom line...he didn't perform. If he would have hit .321/.436/.563 he would have got a pass on his dickishness. People wouldn't boo him because he was raking, and he wouldn't have needed to find ways to justify his non-performance...the fans, the media, the city, the other voices in his head. If Reggie Jackson performed to 2/3rds of his expectations he would have been booed out of New York. He would have said awful things about the fans and the city. But because he did live up to expectations all of the sideshow was mostly avoided. He was still a dick and a bad team mate, but he hit well which is what he is paid to do. Bradley didn't hit, he got booed, the media went after him, his team couldn't justify or write off his poor personality, and the whole thing spiraled out of control. If he hit he would have been just an asshole who played well. He didn't hit, and we see what happened.
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But beez, we both know that's not why he was traded. Are you telling me that if he had been an angel, but had put up "only" a .775 OPS (with a .378 OBP), Hendry would have dumped him for Carlos Silva?
Of course not. Bradley was dumped because he was a horrible teammate and a headcase douche. And that's a red flag that Hendry KNEW about when he signed him.
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It's because he sucked and was a douchebag. I thought that inference by Hendry was obvious.
If Angelo had picked McClellin, I would have been expecting to hear by training camp that kid has stage 4 cancer, is actually 5'2" 142 lbs, is a chick who played in a 7 - 0 defensive scheme who only rotated in on downs which were 3 and 34 yds + so is not expecting to play a down in the NFL until the sex change is complete and she puts on another 100 lbs. + but this is Emery's first pick so he'll get a pass with a bit of questioning. - 1060Ivy
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I have been hard on Hendry the last couple of years, and to be honest, I don't know how he still has a job after EVERY move he made last season imploded, but I respect the way he has handled Bradley. He admitted his mistake and tired to fix it as best as he could after the mistake was made.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
But he DIDN'T admit his mistake, Fella. That's what really pisses me off. His mistake was signing a guy with OBVIOUS character problems, and then when those character problems were the REASON the guy didn't work out, he is forced to trade him.
The only "mistake" Hendry now admits to is signing a guy who "didn't produce." Hendry's mistake was far, far worse than that. Signing a guy who sucks is a mistake that EVERY GM makes every year. Signing Milton Bradley to a multi-year, big money deal? That's a mistake that only ONE GM has ever made.
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Not really responding to this, but I wouldn't have cared what Milton did if he hit the ball. Could've shot half our fan base. Shit, I want to at times.
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