02-22-2010, 04:36 PM
Every single position up the middle is going to be weak; SS, 2B, CF, C. Good teams are good up the middle, this team is not good up the middle. I wonder what this team will be like?
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Cubs Beat Theriot
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02-22-2010, 05:41 PM
<!--quoteo(post=80346:date=Feb 22 2010, 03:12 PM:name=rok)-->QUOTE (rok @ Feb 22 2010, 03:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=80343:date=Feb 22 2010, 01:02 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Feb 22 2010, 01:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=80341:date=Feb 22 2010, 12:54 PM:name=Scarey)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Scarey @ Feb 22 2010, 12:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=80321:date=Feb 22 2010, 12:50 PM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Feb 22 2010, 12:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->From my estimation, we have potentially 4 C to C+ level players in our everyday lineup, so another B+ to A level position player couldn't hurt.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm guessing Baker is another? Who else? And are you drawing these grades from your expectations, last years performances, or the total bodies of work? <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> I'm guessing Byrd is one and Fukudome is another, but I can't speak for rok. Soto could be a 5th if he doesn't have a rebound season. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Bingo, and Fontenot as well. I'm not saying they don't have the potential to be good players, just that there's as much as a 50/50 chance that Byrd/Fuk/Theriot/Baker/Fontenot/Soto may just be average or worse than that. And I'm not basing this on stats, <b>just my own worst case scenario expectations.</b><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> I knew that, I just wanted to hear you say it.
02-22-2010, 05:48 PM
<!--quoteo(post=80359:date=Feb 22 2010, 03:41 PM:name=Scarey)-->QUOTE (Scarey @ Feb 22 2010, 03:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=80346:date=Feb 22 2010, 03:12 PM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Feb 22 2010, 03:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=80343:date=Feb 22 2010, 01:02 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Feb 22 2010, 01:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=80341:date=Feb 22 2010, 12:54 PM:name=Scarey)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Scarey @ Feb 22 2010, 12:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=80321:date=Feb 22 2010, 12:50 PM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Feb 22 2010, 12:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->From my estimation, we have potentially 4 C to C+ level players in our everyday lineup, so another B+ to A level position player couldn't hurt.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm guessing Baker is another? Who else? And are you drawing these grades from your expectations, last years performances, or the total bodies of work? <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> I'm guessing Byrd is one and Fukudome is another, but I can't speak for rok. Soto could be a 5th if he doesn't have a rebound season. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Bingo, and Fontenot as well. I'm not saying they don't have the potential to be good players, just that there's as much as a 50/50 chance that Byrd/Fuk/Theriot/Baker/Fontenot/Soto may just be average or worse than that. And I'm not basing this on stats, <b>just my own worst case scenario expectations.</b><!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> I knew that, I just wanted to hear you say it. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> He's correct, though.
If Angelo had picked McClellin, I would have been expecting to hear by training camp that kid has stage 4 cancer, is actually 5'2" 142 lbs, is a chick who played in a 7 - 0 defensive scheme who only rotated in on downs which were 3 and 34 yds + so is not expecting to play a down in the NFL until the sex change is complete and she puts on another 100 lbs. + but this is Emery's first pick so he'll get a pass with a bit of questioning. - 1060Ivy
02-22-2010, 05:58 PM
<!--quoteo(post=80353:date=Feb 22 2010, 02:36 PM:name=ruby23)-->QUOTE (ruby23 @ Feb 22 2010, 02:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Every single position up the middle is going to be weak; SS, 2B, CF, C. Good teams are good up the middle, this team is not good up the middle. I wonder what this team will be like?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The 1995 Braves would disagree with you. 
02-22-2010, 06:04 PM
<!--quoteo(post=80362:date=Feb 22 2010, 03:58 PM:name=Runnys)-->QUOTE (Runnys @ Feb 22 2010, 03:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=80353:date=Feb 22 2010, 02:36 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Feb 22 2010, 02:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Every single position up the middle is going to be weak; SS, 2B, CF, C. Good teams are good up the middle, this team is not good up the middle. I wonder what this team will be like?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The 1995 Braves would disagree with you. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> True, but they also had one of the greatest rotations of all time, which we don't have.
02-22-2010, 08:44 PM
<!--quoteo(post=80366:date=Feb 22 2010, 04:04 PM:name=rok)-->QUOTE (rok @ Feb 22 2010, 04:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=80362:date=Feb 22 2010, 03:58 PM:name=Runnys)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Runnys @ Feb 22 2010, 03:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=80353:date=Feb 22 2010, 02:36 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Feb 22 2010, 02:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Every single position up the middle is going to be weak; SS, 2B, CF, C. Good teams are good up the middle, this team is not good up the middle. I wonder what this team will be like?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The 1995 Braves would disagree with you. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> True, but they also had one of the greatest rotations of all time, which we don't have. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> True, but Ruby didn't say that. He flat out said that good teams are good up the middle. I showed that the WS winning 1995 Braves were, in fact, very mediocre up the middle. Maybe he should have qualified his statement by saying good teams need to be good up the middle in the absence of a great pitching staff.
02-22-2010, 08:47 PM
<!--quoteo(post=80373:date=Feb 22 2010, 06:44 PM:name=Runnys)-->QUOTE (Runnys @ Feb 22 2010, 06:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=80366:date=Feb 22 2010, 04:04 PM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Feb 22 2010, 04:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=80362:date=Feb 22 2010, 03:58 PM:name=Runnys)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Runnys @ Feb 22 2010, 03:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=80353:date=Feb 22 2010, 02:36 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Feb 22 2010, 02:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Every single position up the middle is going to be weak; SS, 2B, CF, C. Good teams are good up the middle, this team is not good up the middle. I wonder what this team will be like?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The 1995 Braves would disagree with you. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> True, but they also had one of the greatest rotations of all time, which we don't have. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> True, but Ruby didn't say that. He flat out said that good teams are good up the middle. I showed that the WS winning 1995 Braves were, in fact, very mediocre up the middle. Maybe he should have qualified his statement by saying good teams need to be good up the middle in the absence of a great pitching staff. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> That team could play defense up the middle, the Cubs have Theriot, Fontenot/Baker, a RFer in CF, and Soto (who is good defensively).
02-23-2010, 01:50 AM
<!--quoteo(post=80375:date=Feb 22 2010, 07:47 PM:name=ruby23)-->QUOTE (ruby23 @ Feb 22 2010, 07:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=80373:date=Feb 22 2010, 06:44 PM:name=Runnys)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Runnys @ Feb 22 2010, 06:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=80366:date=Feb 22 2010, 04:04 PM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Feb 22 2010, 04:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=80362:date=Feb 22 2010, 03:58 PM:name=Runnys)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Runnys @ Feb 22 2010, 03:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=80353:date=Feb 22 2010, 02:36 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Feb 22 2010, 02:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Every single position up the middle is going to be weak; SS, 2B, CF, C. Good teams are good up the middle, this team is not good up the middle. I wonder what this team will be like?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The 1995 Braves would disagree with you. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> True, but they also had one of the greatest rotations of all time, which we don't have. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> True, but Ruby didn't say that. He flat out said that good teams are good up the middle. I showed that the WS winning 1995 Braves were, in fact, very mediocre up the middle. Maybe he should have qualified his statement by saying good teams need to be good up the middle in the absence of a great pitching staff. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> That team could play defense up the middle, the Cubs have Theriot, Fontenot/Baker, a RFer in CF, and Soto (who is good defensively). <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Byrd is an above average center fielder.
02-23-2010, 02:47 AM
<!--quoteo(post=80391:date=Feb 22 2010, 10:50 PM:name=Scarey)-->QUOTE (Scarey @ Feb 22 2010, 10:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=80375:date=Feb 22 2010, 07:47 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Feb 22 2010, 07:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=80373:date=Feb 22 2010, 06:44 PM:name=Runnys)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Runnys @ Feb 22 2010, 06:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=80366:date=Feb 22 2010, 04:04 PM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Feb 22 2010, 04:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=80362:date=Feb 22 2010, 03:58 PM:name=Runnys)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Runnys @ Feb 22 2010, 03:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=80353:date=Feb 22 2010, 02:36 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Feb 22 2010, 02:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Every single position up the middle is going to be weak; SS, 2B, CF, C. Good teams are good up the middle, this team is not good up the middle. I wonder what this team will be like?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The 1995 Braves would disagree with you. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> True, but they also had one of the greatest rotations of all time, which we don't have. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> True, but Ruby didn't say that. He flat out said that good teams are good up the middle. I showed that the WS winning 1995 Braves were, in fact, very mediocre up the middle. Maybe he should have qualified his statement by saying good teams need to be good up the middle in the absence of a great pitching staff. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> That team could play defense up the middle, the Cubs have Theriot, Fontenot/Baker, a RFer in CF, and Soto (who is good defensively). <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Byrd is an above average center fielder. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> He's tolerable but I don't know if I'd say above average.
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02-23-2010, 09:49 AM
<!--quoteo(post=80392:date=Feb 23 2010, 02:47 AM:name=Clapp)-->QUOTE (Clapp @ Feb 23 2010, 02:47 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=80391:date=Feb 22 2010, 10:50 PM:name=Scarey)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Scarey @ Feb 22 2010, 10:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=80375:date=Feb 22 2010, 07:47 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Feb 22 2010, 07:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=80373:date=Feb 22 2010, 06:44 PM:name=Runnys)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Runnys @ Feb 22 2010, 06:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=80366:date=Feb 22 2010, 04:04 PM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Feb 22 2010, 04:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=80362:date=Feb 22 2010, 03:58 PM:name=Runnys)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Runnys @ Feb 22 2010, 03:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=80353:date=Feb 22 2010, 02:36 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Feb 22 2010, 02:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Every single position up the middle is going to be weak; SS, 2B, CF, C. Good teams are good up the middle, this team is not good up the middle. I wonder what this team will be like?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The 1995 Braves would disagree with you. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> True, but they also had one of the greatest rotations of all time, which we don't have. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> True, but Ruby didn't say that. He flat out said that good teams are good up the middle. I showed that the WS winning 1995 Braves were, in fact, very mediocre up the middle. Maybe he should have qualified his statement by saying good teams need to be good up the middle in the absence of a great pitching staff. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> That team could play defense up the middle, the Cubs have Theriot, Fontenot/Baker, a RFer in CF, and Soto (who is good defensively). <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Byrd is an above average center fielder. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> He's tolerable but I don't know if I'd say above average. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> I'm only going by reports around the league that have stated as much. What makes you guys say he's not?
02-23-2010, 09:53 AM
<!--quoteo(post=80391:date=Feb 22 2010, 11:50 PM:name=Scarey)-->QUOTE (Scarey @ Feb 22 2010, 11:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=80375:date=Feb 22 2010, 07:47 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Feb 22 2010, 07:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=80373:date=Feb 22 2010, 06:44 PM:name=Runnys)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Runnys @ Feb 22 2010, 06:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=80366:date=Feb 22 2010, 04:04 PM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Feb 22 2010, 04:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=80362:date=Feb 22 2010, 03:58 PM:name=Runnys)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Runnys @ Feb 22 2010, 03:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=80353:date=Feb 22 2010, 02:36 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Feb 22 2010, 02:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Every single position up the middle is going to be weak; SS, 2B, CF, C. Good teams are good up the middle, this team is not good up the middle. I wonder what this team will be like?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The 1995 Braves would disagree with you. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> True, but they also had one of the greatest rotations of all time, which we don't have. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> True, but Ruby didn't say that. He flat out said that good teams are good up the middle. I showed that the WS winning 1995 Braves were, in fact, very mediocre up the middle. Maybe he should have qualified his statement by saying good teams need to be good up the middle in the absence of a great pitching staff. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> That team could play defense up the middle, the Cubs have Theriot, Fontenot/Baker, a RFer in CF, and Soto (who is good defensively). <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Byrd is an above average center fielder. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Jesus Christ, no he's not.
02-23-2010, 12:45 PM
<!--quoteo(post=80399:date=Feb 23 2010, 08:53 AM:name=ruby23)-->QUOTE (ruby23 @ Feb 23 2010, 08:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=80391:date=Feb 22 2010, 11:50 PM:name=Scarey)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Scarey @ Feb 22 2010, 11:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=80375:date=Feb 22 2010, 07:47 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Feb 22 2010, 07:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=80373:date=Feb 22 2010, 06:44 PM:name=Runnys)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Runnys @ Feb 22 2010, 06:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=80366:date=Feb 22 2010, 04:04 PM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Feb 22 2010, 04:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=80362:date=Feb 22 2010, 03:58 PM:name=Runnys)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Runnys @ Feb 22 2010, 03:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=80353:date=Feb 22 2010, 02:36 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Feb 22 2010, 02:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Every single position up the middle is going to be weak; SS, 2B, CF, C. Good teams are good up the middle, this team is not good up the middle. I wonder what this team will be like?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The 1995 Braves would disagree with you. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> True, but they also had one of the greatest rotations of all time, which we don't have. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> True, but Ruby didn't say that. He flat out said that good teams are good up the middle. I showed that the WS winning 1995 Braves were, in fact, very mediocre up the middle. Maybe he should have qualified his statement by saying good teams need to be good up the middle in the absence of a great pitching staff. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> That team could play defense up the middle, the Cubs have Theriot, Fontenot/Baker, a RFer in CF, and Soto (who is good defensively). <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Byrd is an above average center fielder. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Jesus Christ, no he's not. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Again, I'm going on what I've heard from reporters, coaches, and other fans that have watched him. What are you going off of?
02-23-2010, 01:25 PM
I am sure over the 100's of games that Ruby has watched Byrd play he has determined with his excellent eye for defensive ability that he is terrible.
And because Ruby says so, that is the way it is. He couldn't possibly be wrong about anything.
02-23-2010, 01:27 PM
<!--quoteo(post=80420:date=Feb 23 2010, 10:45 AM:name=Scarey)-->QUOTE (Scarey @ Feb 23 2010, 10:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=80399:date=Feb 23 2010, 08:53 AM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Feb 23 2010, 08:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=80391:date=Feb 22 2010, 11:50 PM:name=Scarey)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Scarey @ Feb 22 2010, 11:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=80375:date=Feb 22 2010, 07:47 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Feb 22 2010, 07:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=80373:date=Feb 22 2010, 06:44 PM:name=Runnys)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Runnys @ Feb 22 2010, 06:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=80366:date=Feb 22 2010, 04:04 PM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Feb 22 2010, 04:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=80362:date=Feb 22 2010, 03:58 PM:name=Runnys)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Runnys @ Feb 22 2010, 03:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=80353:date=Feb 22 2010, 02:36 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Feb 22 2010, 02:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Every single position up the middle is going to be weak; SS, 2B, CF, C. Good teams are good up the middle, this team is not good up the middle. I wonder what this team will be like?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The 1995 Braves would disagree with you. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> True, but they also had one of the greatest rotations of all time, which we don't have. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> True, but Ruby didn't say that. He flat out said that good teams are good up the middle. I showed that the WS winning 1995 Braves were, in fact, very mediocre up the middle. Maybe he should have qualified his statement by saying good teams need to be good up the middle in the absence of a great pitching staff. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> That team could play defense up the middle, the Cubs have Theriot, Fontenot/Baker, a RFer in CF, and Soto (who is good defensively). <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Byrd is an above average center fielder. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Jesus Christ, no he's not. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Again, I'm going on what I've heard from reporters, coaches, and other fans that have watched him. What are you going off of? <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Reporters, coaches and other fans that have watched him
If Angelo had picked McClellin, I would have been expecting to hear by training camp that kid has stage 4 cancer, is actually 5'2" 142 lbs, is a chick who played in a 7 - 0 defensive scheme who only rotated in on downs which were 3 and 34 yds + so is not expecting to play a down in the NFL until the sex change is complete and she puts on another 100 lbs. + but this is Emery's first pick so he'll get a pass with a bit of questioning. - 1060Ivy
02-23-2010, 01:45 PM
<!--quoteo(post=80427:date=Feb 23 2010, 01:27 PM:name=bz)-->QUOTE (bz @ Feb 23 2010, 01:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=80420:date=Feb 23 2010, 10:45 AM:name=Scarey)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Scarey @ Feb 23 2010, 10:45 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=80399:date=Feb 23 2010, 08:53 AM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Feb 23 2010, 08:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=80391:date=Feb 22 2010, 11:50 PM:name=Scarey)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Scarey @ Feb 22 2010, 11:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=80375:date=Feb 22 2010, 07:47 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Feb 22 2010, 07:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=80373:date=Feb 22 2010, 06:44 PM:name=Runnys)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Runnys @ Feb 22 2010, 06:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=80366:date=Feb 22 2010, 04:04 PM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Feb 22 2010, 04:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=80362:date=Feb 22 2010, 03:58 PM:name=Runnys)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Runnys @ Feb 22 2010, 03:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=80353:date=Feb 22 2010, 02:36 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Feb 22 2010, 02:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Every single position up the middle is going to be weak; SS, 2B, CF, C. Good teams are good up the middle, this team is not good up the middle. I wonder what this team will be like?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The 1995 Braves would disagree with you. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> True, but they also had one of the greatest rotations of all time, which we don't have. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> True, but Ruby didn't say that. He flat out said that good teams are good up the middle. I showed that the WS winning 1995 Braves were, in fact, very mediocre up the middle. Maybe he should have qualified his statement by saying good teams need to be good up the middle in the absence of a great pitching staff. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> That team could play defense up the middle, the Cubs have Theriot, Fontenot/Baker, a RFer in CF, and Soto (who is good defensively). <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Byrd is an above average center fielder. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Jesus Christ, no he's not. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Again, I'm going on what I've heard from reporters, coaches, and other fans that have watched him. What are you going off of? <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> Reporters, coaches and other fans that have watched him <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> That's weird that we're hearing conflicting reports. I didn't realize you spoke with Rangers fans either. |
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