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Bradley
<!--quoteo(post=64538:date=Sep 27 2009, 11:04 PM:name=CFOrfan)-->QUOTE (CFOrfan @ Sep 27 2009, 11:04 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=64536:date=Sep 27 2009, 05:43 PM:name=PcB)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PcB @ Sep 27 2009, 05:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=64532:date=Sep 27 2009, 04:36 PM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Sep 27 2009, 04:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=64531:date=Sep 27 2009, 04:25 PM:name=CFOrfan)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CFOrfan @ Sep 27 2009, 04:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=64492:date=Sep 26 2009, 05:22 PM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Sep 26 2009, 05:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=64485:date=Sep 26 2009, 04:06 PM:name=KBwsb)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KBwsb @ Sep 26 2009, 04:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Unless he was cornholing Lou's wife, and purposely pounding D. Lee on the head and neck, I don't think it's worth eating $21 Million bucks, and shitcanning a guy who, even during what is likely the worst year of his <i>life</i>, has put up a .378 OBP.

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Eating $21M? WTF? You think we'll pay all of his salary to play somewhere else?
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That's probably the only way some one takes him
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ALL of his salary? Nonsense.
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I agree, we'll have to eat some of his salary, but most definitely not all of it.
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Definitely not all, but I would say $15 of the $21 mil and up, especially if he went to Tampa
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So you think $3M per year is the most we can get anyone to value him at?
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if we traded him straight up for another bad contract, we shouldn't have to eat much of his salary at all.
Wang.
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<!--quoteo(post=64543:date=Sep 28 2009, 07:24 AM:name=veryzer)-->QUOTE (veryzer @ Sep 28 2009, 07:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->if we traded him straight up for another bad contract, we shouldn't have to eat much of his salary at all.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Quite so. The idea that we'll eat at least $15M is nutso.
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<!--quoteo(post=64571:date=Sep 28 2009, 01:54 PM:name=jstraw)-->QUOTE (jstraw @ Sep 28 2009, 01:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=64543:date=Sep 28 2009, 07:24 AM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Sep 28 2009, 07:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->if we traded him straight up for another bad contract, we shouldn't have to eat much of his salary at all.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Quite so. The idea that we'll eat at least $15M is nutso.
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Unless we trade him without taking on another bad contract.
This is not some silly theory that's unsupported and deserves being mocked by photos of Xena.  [Image: ITgoyeg.png]
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<!--quoteo(post=64594:date=Sep 28 2009, 06:08 PM:name=Kid)-->QUOTE (Kid @ Sep 28 2009, 06:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=64571:date=Sep 28 2009, 01:54 PM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Sep 28 2009, 01:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=64543:date=Sep 28 2009, 07:24 AM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Sep 28 2009, 07:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->if we traded him straight up for another bad contract, we shouldn't have to eat much of his salary at all.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Quite so. The idea that we'll eat at least $15M is nutso.
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Unless we trade him without taking on another bad contract.
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Why would we trade him to someone only willing to pick up $3M per year?
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<!--quoteo(post=64604:date=Sep 28 2009, 08:05 PM:name=jstraw)-->QUOTE (jstraw @ Sep 28 2009, 08:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=64594:date=Sep 28 2009, 06:08 PM:name=Kid)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid @ Sep 28 2009, 06:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=64571:date=Sep 28 2009, 01:54 PM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Sep 28 2009, 01:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=64543:date=Sep 28 2009, 07:24 AM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Sep 28 2009, 07:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->if we traded him straight up for another bad contract, we shouldn't have to eat much of his salary at all.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Quite so. The idea that we'll eat at least $15M is nutso.
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Unless we trade him without taking on another bad contract.
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Why would we trade him to someone only willing to pick up $3M per year?
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Because the number of teams looking to trade for a lunatic and pay him much money may be limited?
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<!--quoteo(post=64611:date=Sep 28 2009, 10:56 PM:name=Brock)-->QUOTE (Brock @ Sep 28 2009, 10:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=64604:date=Sep 28 2009, 08:05 PM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Sep 28 2009, 08:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=64594:date=Sep 28 2009, 06:08 PM:name=Kid)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid @ Sep 28 2009, 06:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=64571:date=Sep 28 2009, 01:54 PM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Sep 28 2009, 01:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=64543:date=Sep 28 2009, 07:24 AM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Sep 28 2009, 07:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->if we traded him straight up for another bad contract, we shouldn't have to eat much of his salary at all.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Quite so. The idea that we'll eat at least $15M is nutso.
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Unless we trade him without taking on another bad contract.
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Why would we trade him to someone only willing to pick up $3M per year?
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Because the number of teams looking to trade for a lunatic and pay him much money may be limited?
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We shall see. I'd live with it...I just don't think we'll have to.
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Quite so. The idea that we'll eat at least $15M is nutso.
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Unless we trade him without taking on another bad contract.
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Why would we trade him to someone only willing to pick up $3M per year?
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Because the number of teams looking to trade for a lunatic and pay him much money may be limited?
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We shall see. I'd live with it...I just don't think we'll have to.
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If we have to pick up all but $6 million, I will flip out. Get him in to counseling/anger management and roll the dice on the next two years, if that is all the salary we are able to get out of paying.
"Drink Up and Beat Off!"
-KBWSB

"Will I be looked on poorly if my religion involved punting little people?"
-Jody
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<!--quoteo(post=64667:date=Sep 29 2009, 01:18 PM:name=savant)-->QUOTE (savant @ Sep 29 2009, 01:18 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=64663:date=Sep 29 2009, 12:47 PM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Sep 29 2009, 12:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=64611:date=Sep 28 2009, 10:56 PM:name=Brock)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Brock @ Sep 28 2009, 10:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=64604:date=Sep 28 2009, 08:05 PM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Sep 28 2009, 08:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=64594:date=Sep 28 2009, 06:08 PM:name=Kid)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid @ Sep 28 2009, 06:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=64571:date=Sep 28 2009, 01:54 PM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Sep 28 2009, 01:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=64543:date=Sep 28 2009, 07:24 AM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Sep 28 2009, 07:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->if we traded him straight up for another bad contract, we shouldn't have to eat much of his salary at all.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Quite so. The idea that we'll eat at least $15M is nutso.
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Unless we trade him without taking on another bad contract.
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Why would we trade him to someone only willing to pick up $3M per year?
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Because the number of teams looking to trade for a lunatic and pay him much money may be limited?
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We shall see. I'd live with it...I just don't think we'll have to.
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If we have to pick up all but $6 million, I will flip out. Get him in to counseling/anger management and roll the dice on the next two years, if that is all the salary we are able to get out of paying.
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Count me among those that think that ship has sailed. There's not enough Zoloft on the planet to keep Desmond Tutu from climbing the outfield wall and killing fans if he got the business Milt would get if he returned.
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Quite so. The idea that we'll eat at least $15M is nutso.
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Unless we trade him without taking on another bad contract.
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Why would we trade him to someone only willing to pick up $3M per year?
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Because the number of teams looking to trade for a lunatic and pay him much money may be limited?
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We shall see. I'd live with it...I just don't think we'll have to.
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If we have to pick up all but $6 million, I will flip out. Get him in to counseling/anger management and roll the dice on the next two years, if that is all the salary we are able to get out of paying.
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Count me among those that think that ship has sailed. There's not enough Zoloft on the planet to keep Desmond Tutu from climbing the outfield wall and killing fans if he got the business Milt would get if he returned.
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right. i don't know much, but i know bradley is not coming back.
Wang.
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Quite so. The idea that we'll eat at least $15M is nutso.
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Unless we trade him without taking on another bad contract.
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Why would we trade him to someone only willing to pick up $3M per year?
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Because the number of teams looking to trade for a lunatic and pay him much money may be limited?
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We shall see. I'd live with it...I just don't think we'll have to.
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If we have to pick up all but $6 million, I will flip out. Get him in to counseling/anger management and roll the dice on the next two years, if that is all the salary we are able to get out of paying.
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Count me among those that think that ship has sailed. There's not enough Zoloft on the planet to keep Desmond Tutu from climbing the outfield wall and killing fans if he got the business Milt would get if he returned.
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right. i don't know much, but i know bradley is not coming back.
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I need a good face tattoo.
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I think Aaron got that tattoo on his face to divert attention from the alien growth above his eyebrow.
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A face tattoo is incomplete without a matching neck tatt.
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Quite so. The idea that we'll eat at least $15M is nutso.
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Unless we trade him without taking on another bad contract.
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Why would we trade him to someone only willing to pick up $3M per year?
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Because the number of teams looking to trade for a lunatic and pay him much money may be limited?
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We shall see. I'd live with it...I just don't think we'll have to.
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If we have to pick up all but $6 million, I will flip out. Get him in to counseling/anger management and roll the dice on the next two years, if that is all the salary we are able to get out of paying.
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Count me among those that think that ship has sailed. There's not enough Zoloft on the planet to keep Desmond Tutu from climbing the outfield wall and killing fans if he got the business Milt would get if he returned.
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right. i don't know much, but i know bradley is not coming back.
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If we don't get more than 6 million of his salary back over two years he better be. What good does it do to save such a small pittance of money? That's like Miles money.
"Drink Up and Beat Off!"
-KBWSB

"Will I be looked on poorly if my religion involved punting little people?"
-Jody
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