08-28-2009, 09:53 AM
4 people didn't hear anything at one game? Clearly he made it up.
This is not some silly theory that's unsupported and deserves being mocked by photos of Xena. ![[Image: ITgoyeg.png]](http://i.imgur.com/ITgoyeg.png)
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08-28-2009, 10:09 AM
"Isn't that the only question that matters?"
No. 
08-28-2009, 10:30 AM
<!--quoteo(post=60519:date=Aug 28 2009, 08:53 AM:name=Kid)-->QUOTE (Kid @ Aug 28 2009, 08:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->4 people didn't hear anything at one game? Clearly he made it up.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The writer planned on interviewing all 40,000 fans from every home game this season, but he ran out of time. I don't get why Bradley is willing to accuse the Wrigley crowd of being racist, but then refuses to cite any specific examples. And I think tom brought up a valid point. He's the most volatile player in the game. If someone said something racist to him, I'd fully expect him to drop his mitt in the middle of a play, scale they ivy, and hunt down the offender. But all we are getting are these vague accusations that are doing more harm to everyone (including himself) than good. If someone is yelling racist remarks at anyone, they should be banned from Wrigley for life. But what good is painting all of Cubs fandom with a big racist brush doing?
08-28-2009, 10:39 AM
Let me draw an analogy. I live in Topeka, Kansas. This means I have a certain familiarity with the Reverend Fred Phelps, the so-called "Westboro Baptist Church," their motives and their methods.
If you're not familiar with this kook, use the Google. He's a hateful nutjob who thrives on attention and he's discovered that by pushing people's buttons he can tap into an endless supply. He's a genius at this. He has one primary message...that America's tolerance of homosexuals is the reason for everything bad that happens...in the form of God's punishment...which we richly deserve and of which he approves. So he runs around picketing public events...it used to be the funerals of famous gay people or to celebrate things like Matthew Shepard's murder. That got to be old news and when only the core activist community and those personally offended could be bothered to show up and be angry at him, he realized that gimmick was becoming played out. He stumbled onto a much better tactic. Picket the funerals of fallen soldiers...the logic goes like this: The country is being punished by god for it's tolerance of gay people. That's why your son or daughter died over there. Talk about a hot button. It's brilliant. It was the specific cause for the formation of the Patriot Guard...now everywhere he goes, he's a photo-op again. He smiles, holding his hateful signs and big burly bikers with huge American flags (people that would never lift a finger to offer emotional support at the death of an AIDS victim) show up in force. I don't know why people would care what some nut says is the reason their loved one was paying a toll for our nation to God but hay, that's just me. Bear with me, I'm getting to my analogy. They picket anywhere they can get press. They picketed some nominally Jewish events and one of their signs reminds us that "The Jews Killed Christ" or some-such. Now in the sea of polemic they spew this is one little sign amongst many and frankly, it's off-message. It exists because that hot-button won't be ignored...it's just one more sign and there's always another grandkid to tote one more sign. The reaction to this from the Anti-Defamation League is that the guy is a anti-semetic threat. They focus on this one provocative expression among many to decide that's what these people are all about...they're anti-semetic. They focus on that to the exclusion of all other information about the Phelpses. It's crap. So back to Milton...all this shit is swirling around him and his season in Chicago. Maybe ALL of the swirling shit is misguided and wrong...that's not the point. Somebody that wants to hurt Bradley yells "watermelon" or whatever. Maybe that person IS a racist and maybe he isn't. That's not the point either. The point is that this is all it takes for anyone who wants to, including Milton to make this <i>all about </i>racism...for them to say what's going down is because Milton is black and the problem is racism. It's horseshit.
08-28-2009, 11:53 AM
<!--quoteo(post=60484:date=Aug 27 2009, 07:44 PM:name=Ace)-->QUOTE (Ace @ Aug 27 2009, 07:44 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->George Ofman wrote a send up of Bradley on this stuff, which yes, I am only posting because he cited Bleacher Nation.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Nice work, Ace! 
08-28-2009, 01:41 PM
<!--quoteo(post=60526:date=Aug 28 2009, 09:30 AM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Aug 28 2009, 09:30 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=60519:date=Aug 28 2009, 08:53 AM:name=Kid)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Kid @ Aug 28 2009, 08:53 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->4 people didn't hear anything at one game? Clearly he made it up.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The writer planned on interviewing all 40,000 fans from every home game this season, but he ran out of time. I don't get why Bradley is willing to accuse the Wrigley crowd of being racist, but then refuses to cite any specific examples. And I think tom brought up a valid point. He's the most volatile player in the game. If someone said something racist to him, I'd fully expect him to drop his mitt in the middle of a play, scale they ivy, and hunt down the offender. But all we are getting are these vague accusations that are doing more harm to everyone (including himself) than good. If someone is yelling racist remarks at anyone, they should be banned from Wrigley for life. But what good is painting all of Cubs fandom with a big racist brush doing? <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> i do believe that butcher just nailed it.
Wang.
08-28-2009, 01:45 PM
<!--quoteo(post=60532:date=Aug 28 2009, 09:39 AM:name=jstraw)-->QUOTE (jstraw @ Aug 28 2009, 09:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Let me draw an analogy. I live in Topeka, Kansas. This means I have a certain familiarity with the Reverend Fred Phelps, the so-called "Westboro Baptist Church," their motives and their methods.
If you're not familiar with this kook, use the Google. He's a hateful nutjob who thrives on attention and he's discovered that by pushing people's buttons he can tap into an endless supply. He's a genius at this. He has one primary message...that America's tolerance of homosexuals is the reason for everything bad that happens...in the form of God's punishment...which we richly deserve and of which he approves. So he runs around picketing public events...it used to be the funerals of famous gay people or to celebrate things like Matthew Shepard's murder. That got to be old news and when only the core activist community and those personally offended could be bothered to show up and be angry at him, he realized that gimmick was becoming played out. He stumbled onto a much better tactic. Picket the funerals of fallen soldiers...the logic goes like this: The country is being punished by god for it's tolerance of gay people. That's why your son or daughter died over there. Talk about a hot button. It's brilliant. It was the specific cause for the formation of the Patriot Guard...now everywhere he goes, he's a photo-op again. He smiles, holding his hateful signs and big burly bikers with huge American flags (people that would never lift a finger to offer emotional support at the death of an AIDS victim) show up in force. I don't know why people would care what some nut says is the reason their loved one was paying a toll for our nation to God but hay, that's just me. Bear with me, I'm getting to my analogy. They picket anywhere they can get press. They picketed some nominally Jewish events and one of their signs reminds us that "The Jews Killed Christ" or some-such. Now in the sea of polemic they spew this is one little sign amongst many and frankly, it's off-message. It exists because that hot-button won't be ignored...it's just one more sign and there's always another grandkid to tote one more sign. The reaction to this from the Anti-Defamation League is that the guy is a anti-semetic threat. They focus on this one provocative expression among many to decide that's what these people are all about...they're anti-semetic. They focus on that to the exclusion of all other information about the Phelpses. It's crap. So back to Milton...all this shit is swirling around him and his season in Chicago. Maybe ALL of the swirling shit is misguided and wrong...that's not the point. Somebody that wants to hurt Bradley yells "watermelon" or whatever. Maybe that person IS a racist and maybe he isn't. That's not the point either. The point is that this is all it takes for anyone who wants to, including Milton to make this <i>all about </i>racism...for them to say what's going down is because Milton is black and the problem is racism. It's horseshit.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> straw nailed it too! face it, bradley thinks everyone who speaks out against him is racist. it's easy. he doesn't have to take responsibility for his actions that way. jeff kent? racist. umpires? racist. fans? racist. broadcasters? racist. the kkk? racist.
Wang.
08-28-2009, 02:04 PM
<!--quoteo(post=60572:date=Aug 28 2009, 12:45 PM:name=veryzer)-->QUOTE (veryzer @ Aug 28 2009, 12:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=60532:date=Aug 28 2009, 09:39 AM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Aug 28 2009, 09:39 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Let me draw an analogy. I live in Topeka, Kansas. This means I have a certain familiarity with the Reverend Fred Phelps, the so-called "Westboro Baptist Church," their motives and their methods.
If you're not familiar with this kook, use the Google. He's a hateful nutjob who thrives on attention and he's discovered that by pushing people's buttons he can tap into an endless supply. He's a genius at this. He has one primary message...that America's tolerance of homosexuals is the reason for everything bad that happens...in the form of God's punishment...which we richly deserve and of which he approves. So he runs around picketing public events...it used to be the funerals of famous gay people or to celebrate things like Matthew Shepard's murder. That got to be old news and when only the core activist community and those personally offended could be bothered to show up and be angry at him, he realized that gimmick was becoming played out. He stumbled onto a much better tactic. Picket the funerals of fallen soldiers...the logic goes like this: The country is being punished by god for it's tolerance of gay people. That's why your son or daughter died over there. Talk about a hot button. It's brilliant. It was the specific cause for the formation of the Patriot Guard...now everywhere he goes, he's a photo-op again. He smiles, holding his hateful signs and big burly bikers with huge American flags (people that would never lift a finger to offer emotional support at the death of an AIDS victim) show up in force. I don't know why people would care what some nut says is the reason their loved one was paying a toll for our nation to God but hay, that's just me. Bear with me, I'm getting to my analogy. They picket anywhere they can get press. They picketed some nominally Jewish events and one of their signs reminds us that "The Jews Killed Christ" or some-such. Now in the sea of polemic they spew this is one little sign amongst many and frankly, it's off-message. It exists because that hot-button won't be ignored...it's just one more sign and there's always another grandkid to tote one more sign. The reaction to this from the Anti-Defamation League is that the guy is a anti-semetic threat. They focus on this one provocative expression among many to decide that's what these people are all about...they're anti-semetic. They focus on that to the exclusion of all other information about the Phelpses. It's crap. So back to Milton...all this shit is swirling around him and his season in Chicago. Maybe ALL of the swirling shit is misguided and wrong...that's not the point. Somebody that wants to hurt Bradley yells "watermelon" or whatever. Maybe that person IS a racist and maybe he isn't. That's not the point either. The point is that this is all it takes for anyone who wants to, including Milton to make this <i>all about </i>racism...for them to say what's going down is because Milton is black and the problem is racism. It's horseshit.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd--> straw nailed it too! face it, bradley thinks everyone who speaks out against him is racist. it's easy. he doesn't have to take responsibility for his actions that way. jeff kent? racist. umpires? racist. fans? racist. broadcasters? racist. the kkk? racist. <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> This is what is really confusing me... what actions is he not taking responsibility for with the fans? His suckiness? He has already told the media and fans that he's played like shit and will work to improve... and he did! Since the all-star break, he has hit .277/.400/.437 in the second half this season. He absolutely owned up to it and improved himself. Why would he play the race card just to avoid taking responsibility for his actions when he has been playing much better lately? That part of the equation just doesn't make sense to me.
08-28-2009, 02:06 PM
Simple. He doesn't like playing in Chicago. If he stirs up enough shit with this, he'll force Hendry's (or whoever the GM is) hand. Then we'll get fucked because we won't get anywhere close to equal value in return.
08-28-2009, 02:09 PM
<!--quoteo(post=60586:date=Aug 28 2009, 01:06 PM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Aug 28 2009, 01:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Simple. He doesn't like playing in Chicago. If he stirs up enough shit with this, he'll force Hendry's (or whoever the GM is) hand. Then we'll get fucked because we won't get anywhere close to equal value in return.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Why'd he sign here to begin with? I don't get people sometimes...
08-28-2009, 02:10 PM
<!--quoteo(post=60589:date=Aug 28 2009, 01:09 PM:name=dk123)-->QUOTE (dk123 @ Aug 28 2009, 01:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=60586:date=Aug 28 2009, 01:06 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Aug 28 2009, 01:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Simple. He doesn't like playing in Chicago. If he stirs up enough shit with this, he'll force Hendry's (or whoever the GM is) hand. Then we'll get fucked because we won't get anywhere close to equal value in return.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Why'd he sign here to begin with? I don't get people sometimes... <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> $30M dollars? He didn't know he was going to suck for half the season and get booed?
08-28-2009, 02:12 PM
<!--quoteo(post=60590:date=Aug 28 2009, 01:10 PM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Aug 28 2009, 01:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=60589:date=Aug 28 2009, 01:09 PM:name=dk123)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (dk123 @ Aug 28 2009, 01:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=60586:date=Aug 28 2009, 01:06 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Aug 28 2009, 01:06 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Simple. He doesn't like playing in Chicago. If he stirs up enough shit with this, he'll force Hendry's (or whoever the GM is) hand. Then we'll get fucked because we won't get anywhere close to equal value in return.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Why'd he sign here to begin with? I don't get people sometimes... <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> $30M dollars? He didn't know he was going to suck for half the season and get booed? <!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd--> I guess that makes Hendry the idiot then, if he offered him something way better than he could get somewhere else.
08-28-2009, 02:14 PM
I love it when people take their own baseless assumptions as undeniable fact.
This is not some silly theory that's unsupported and deserves being mocked by photos of Xena.
08-28-2009, 02:17 PM
<!--quoteo(post=60592:date=Aug 28 2009, 01:14 PM:name=Kid)-->QUOTE (Kid @ Aug 28 2009, 01:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I love it when people take their own baseless assumptions as undeniable fact.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Bradley isn't giving us much to work with. He throws out "hatred" and "racism," but doesn't give us anything concrete. What are we supposed to do with that? It isn't as if this scenario hasn't played out with Bradley before...
08-28-2009, 02:18 PM
<!--quoteo(post=60592:date=Aug 28 2009, 01:14 PM:name=Kid)-->QUOTE (Kid @ Aug 28 2009, 01:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I love it when people take their own baseless assumptions as undeniable fact.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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