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Depends on how old your kids are, IMO. I have a 5-year-old and a 3-year-old. I don't want either of them exposed to that kind of thing at this age. When they're older, then they're already hearing it from their friends at school and it's probably not worth texting security unless it's really profane.
And don't tell me, "Then don't take them to the ballgame if you don't want them exposed to it." Because that's ridiculous. People can act civilized in a public place for a couple of hours.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
So what are we shielding them from? Words? I guess this has turned into a parental philosophy conversation. My daughter just turned 4. She hears me cuss on occasion, and she'll repeat what I say. I say, Don't say that, that's an adult word. Problem solved. But are we teaching our kids not to say words cause of how embarrassed we'll be if someone else hears them say them? Or are we just holding on to some puritan bullshit? I'd really like your input, Butch.
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If you're OK with your kids hearing and/or using profanity, it isn't my business. But in a public space, you can't assume everyone has the same philosophy as you (whether you agree with it or not).
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<!--quoteo(post=60432:date=Aug 27 2009, 03:54 PM:name=vitaminB)-->QUOTE (vitaminB @ Aug 27 2009, 03:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Depends on how old your kids are, IMO. I have a 5-year-old and a 3-year-old. I don't want either of them exposed to that kind of thing at this age. When they're older, then they're already hearing it from their friends at school and it's probably not worth texting security unless it's really profane.
And don't tell me, "Then don't take them to the ballgame if you don't want them exposed to it." Because that's ridiculous. People can act civilized in a public place for a couple of hours.
So what are we shielding them from? Words? I guess this has turned into a parental philosophy conversation. My daughter just turned 4. She hears me cuss on occasion, and she'll repeat what I say. I say, Don't say that, that's an adult word. Problem solved. But are we teaching our kids not to say words cause of how embarrassed we'll be if someone else hears them say them? Or are we just holding on to some puritan bullshit? I'd really like your input, Butch.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I think you are being humorous--and I mostly agree. However, the point is if someone is behaving in a manner that's causing your family to not enjoy the game experience (which is pretty costly), then I think you have the right to do something about it. Whether that involves calling security (which you are paying for) or dealing with it on your own is a judgment call.
I'm 100% fine with this. I'm just glad there's an actual plan in place that isn't, "Let's load up on retreads and hope we get lucky." I'm a little tired of that plan.
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<!--quoteo(post=60413:date=Aug 27 2009, 03:34 PM:name=vitaminB)-->QUOTE (vitaminB @ Aug 27 2009, 03:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=60407:date=Aug 27 2009, 03:27 PM:name=Lance)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lance @ Aug 27 2009, 03:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=60406:date=Aug 27 2009, 03:24 PM:name=vitaminB)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vitaminB @ Aug 27 2009, 03:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=60404:date=Aug 27 2009, 03:14 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Aug 27 2009, 03:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=60403:date=Aug 27 2009, 02:10 PM:name=biggz)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (biggz @ Aug 27 2009, 02:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I may be mistaken, but doesn't Wrigley have a code people can text to security?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
They do -- but they just introduced it maybe a month ago. It's pretty new and I don't think many know about it.
From an email dated August 7:
Today, with the assistance of Major League Baseball Advanced Media, the Cubs have unveiled a new Fan Behavior Text Message service to our season ticket holders. This service will allow you to directly text our Event Operations department when you witness a fan behavior incident while attending the game.
This system will provide instant two-way, text messaging communication between you and the event staff allowing for improved guest services. It allows you to alert us on all issues in the stands without you having to leave your seat to find an usher or security employee. It also will allow you to stay anonymous while reporting a problem in the stands without the fear of reprisal from the offender, in the case of an intoxicated or obnoxious fan.
To send a text message to us you will need to text “CUBS” & your Message & your Location to 78247.
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CUBS FAN SMOKING IN AISLE 224 ROW 5
CUBS FAN USING INAPPROPRIATE LANGUAGE IN AISLE 425 ROW 7
CUBS INAPPROPRIATE BEHAVIOR BETWEEN FANS IN AISLE 112 ROW 8
Once we have received your message we will have a member of our event operations staff handle and respond to the incoming request. The staff member can send reply messages directly to your phone to help answer questions or obtain more information. If necessary the staff will be able to quickly dispatch safety/security, medical or event operations staff.
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This is just what we need a fucking police state. Good citizens turn in your comrades. What is this fucking 1984? If you text in a complaint you're a fucking rat bastard. If you don't have the balls to ask someone to stop smoking, cursing, etc in person then just sit there in your own piss and text your mom.
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Generally, I agree with your sentiment. However, if you are there with your kids, you can't risk confronting a stranger regarding behavioral issues.
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Son: Daddy, that man just blew smoke in my face.
Dad: Just hold your breath while I text security.
Son: Wow, Dad you're my hero. I've learned a valuable lesson on how to avoid conflict today. By the way, I'm gay, and I'm pretty sure you are too. In fact, Mom told me you haven't touched her in months. You're whole life is a lie, isn't it? Instead of texting the cops, Dad, why don't you just offer to give the nice man a handy if he'll stop smoking. I hate you. You ruined my life.
Is that what you want to happen. cause that exact scenario happened to Greg Luganious. And we all saw where he ended up.
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<!--quoteo(post=60437:date=Aug 27 2009, 04:00 PM:name=Lance)-->QUOTE (Lance @ Aug 27 2009, 04:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=60432:date=Aug 27 2009, 03:54 PM:name=vitaminB)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vitaminB @ Aug 27 2009, 03:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Depends on how old your kids are, IMO. I have a 5-year-old and a 3-year-old. I don't want either of them exposed to that kind of thing at this age. When they're older, then they're already hearing it from their friends at school and it's probably not worth texting security unless it's really profane.
And don't tell me, "Then don't take them to the ballgame if you don't want them exposed to it." Because that's ridiculous. People can act civilized in a public place for a couple of hours.
So what are we shielding them from? Words? I guess this has turned into a parental philosophy conversation. My daughter just turned 4. She hears me cuss on occasion, and she'll repeat what I say. I say, Don't say that, that's an adult word. Problem solved. But are we teaching our kids not to say words cause of how embarrassed we'll be if someone else hears them say them? Or are we just holding on to some puritan bullshit? I'd really like your input, Butch.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I think you are being humorous--and I mostly agree. However, the point is if someone is behaving in a manner that's causing your family to not enjoy the game experience (which is pretty costly), then I think you have the right to do something about it. Whether that involves calling security (which you are paying for) or dealing with it on your own is a judgment call.
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Yeah, man I get what you're saying. There is just something about this whole rat out your neighbor philosophy that just strikes me as wrong. I love to keep the peace as much as anyone, but I'd like to think we could all have fun without having to involve the authorities.
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<!--quoteo(post=60448:date=Aug 27 2009, 03:12 PM:name=vitaminB)-->QUOTE (vitaminB @ Aug 27 2009, 03:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=60437:date=Aug 27 2009, 04:00 PM:name=Lance)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lance @ Aug 27 2009, 04:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=60432:date=Aug 27 2009, 03:54 PM:name=vitaminB)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vitaminB @ Aug 27 2009, 03:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Depends on how old your kids are, IMO. I have a 5-year-old and a 3-year-old. I don't want either of them exposed to that kind of thing at this age. When they're older, then they're already hearing it from their friends at school and it's probably not worth texting security unless it's really profane.
And don't tell me, "Then don't take them to the ballgame if you don't want them exposed to it." Because that's ridiculous. People can act civilized in a public place for a couple of hours.
So what are we shielding them from? Words? I guess this has turned into a parental philosophy conversation. My daughter just turned 4. She hears me cuss on occasion, and she'll repeat what I say. I say, Don't say that, that's an adult word. Problem solved. But are we teaching our kids not to say words cause of how embarrassed we'll be if someone else hears them say them? Or are we just holding on to some puritan bullshit? I'd really like your input, Butch.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I think you are being humorous--and I mostly agree. However, the point is if someone is behaving in a manner that's causing your family to not enjoy the game experience (which is pretty costly), then I think you have the right to do something about it. Whether that involves calling security (which you are paying for) or dealing with it on your own is a judgment call.
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Yeah, man I get what you're saying. There is just something about this whole rat out your neighbor philosophy that just strikes me as wrong. I love to keep the peace as much as anyone, but I'd like to think we could all have fun without having to involve the authorities.
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I agree with you for the most part. And in the vast majority of circumstances, people should be able to take care of it without calling security. But it doesn't always work that way.
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<!--quoteo(post=60380:date=Aug 27 2009, 01:11 PM:name=Scarey)-->QUOTE (Scarey @ Aug 27 2009, 01:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I don't think the Cubs want to broadcast isolated incidents of racism in their stadium. If it were to happen, I would think they would try to keep it low key. The fan was kicked out for "unruley behavior".
Look, you guys wanna believe that fans will dump beer on players, throw garbage at players, run on the field of play, interfere with the play, attack players, attack umpires, attack coaches... but won't yell a racial slur? Ok, I give in. If you can't beat them, join them.
Fuck Bradley. Fucking douchebag is throwing around lies about Cubs fans to save his own ass and deflect his bad play from months ago. I can't wait to see him out of a Cub uniform. Scratch that, I can't wait to see him burn in hell where he belongs with all the other assholes that throw the race card around to take advantage of others.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You seem to be taking this much more personally than I would have guessed.
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<!--quoteo(post=60450:date=Aug 27 2009, 04:24 PM:name=BT)-->QUOTE (BT @ Aug 27 2009, 04:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=60380:date=Aug 27 2009, 01:11 PM:name=Scarey)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Scarey @ Aug 27 2009, 01:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I don't think the Cubs want to broadcast isolated incidents of racism in their stadium. If it were to happen, I would think they would try to keep it low key. The fan was kicked out for "unruley behavior".
Look, you guys wanna believe that fans will dump beer on players, throw garbage at players, run on the field of play, interfere with the play, attack players, attack umpires, attack coaches... but won't yell a racial slur? Ok, I give in. If you can't beat them, join them.
Fuck Bradley. Fucking douchebag is throwing around lies about Cubs fans to save his own ass and deflect his bad play from months ago. I can't wait to see him out of a Cub uniform. Scratch that, I can't wait to see him burn in hell where he belongs with all the other assholes that throw the race card around to take advantage of others.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You seem to be taking this much more personally than I would have guessed.
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He was hungry.
I'm 100% fine with this. I'm just glad there's an actual plan in place that isn't, "Let's load up on retreads and hope we get lucky." I'm a little tired of that plan.
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<!--quoteo(post=60450:date=Aug 27 2009, 03:24 PM:name=BT)-->QUOTE (BT @ Aug 27 2009, 03:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=60380:date=Aug 27 2009, 01:11 PM:name=Scarey)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Scarey @ Aug 27 2009, 01:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I don't think the Cubs want to broadcast isolated incidents of racism in their stadium. If it were to happen, I would think they would try to keep it low key. The fan was kicked out for "unruley behavior".
Look, you guys wanna believe that fans will dump beer on players, throw garbage at players, run on the field of play, interfere with the play, attack players, attack umpires, attack coaches... but won't yell a racial slur? Ok, I give in. If you can't beat them, join them.
Fuck Bradley. Fucking douchebag is throwing around lies about Cubs fans to save his own ass and deflect his bad play from months ago. I can't wait to see him out of a Cub uniform. Scratch that, I can't wait to see him burn in hell where he belongs with all the other assholes that throw the race card around to take advantage of others.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You seem to be taking this much more personally than I would have guessed.
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I guess it's because I relate to Bradley, I don't take criticism well either (I would think this would be obvious at this point).
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<!--quoteo(post=60380:date=Aug 27 2009, 01:11 PM:name=Scarey)-->QUOTE (Scarey @ Aug 27 2009, 01:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I don't think the Cubs want to broadcast isolated incidents of racism in their stadium. If it were to happen, I would think they would try to keep it low key. The fan was kicked out for "unruley behavior".
Look, you guys wanna believe that fans will dump beer on players, throw garbage at players, run on the field of play, interfere with the play, attack players, attack umpires, attack coaches... but won't yell a racial slur? Ok, I give in. If you can't beat them, join them.
Fuck Bradley. Fucking douchebag is throwing around lies about Cubs fans to save his own ass and deflect his bad play from months ago. I can't wait to see him out of a Cub uniform. Scratch that, I can't wait to see him burn in hell where he belongs with all the other assholes that throw the race card around to take advantage of others.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
now who's failing to read?
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Bradley sucks. Thread over.
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<!--quoteo(post=60444:date=Aug 27 2009, 03:08 PM:name=Coach)-->QUOTE (Coach @ Aug 27 2009, 03:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=60413:date=Aug 27 2009, 03:34 PM:name=vitaminB)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vitaminB @ Aug 27 2009, 03:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=60407:date=Aug 27 2009, 03:27 PM:name=Lance)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Lance @ Aug 27 2009, 03:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=60406:date=Aug 27 2009, 03:24 PM:name=vitaminB)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vitaminB @ Aug 27 2009, 03:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=60404:date=Aug 27 2009, 03:14 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Aug 27 2009, 03:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=60403:date=Aug 27 2009, 02:10 PM:name=biggz)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (biggz @ Aug 27 2009, 02:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I may be mistaken, but doesn't Wrigley have a code people can text to security?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
They do -- but they just introduced it maybe a month ago. It's pretty new and I don't think many know about it.
From an email dated August 7:
Today, with the assistance of Major League Baseball Advanced Media, the Cubs have unveiled a new Fan Behavior Text Message service to our season ticket holders. This service will allow you to directly text our Event Operations department when you witness a fan behavior incident while attending the game.
This system will provide instant two-way, text messaging communication between you and the event staff allowing for improved guest services. It allows you to alert us on all issues in the stands without you having to leave your seat to find an usher or security employee. It also will allow you to stay anonymous while reporting a problem in the stands without the fear of reprisal from the offender, in the case of an intoxicated or obnoxious fan.
To send a text message to us you will need to text “CUBS” & your Message & your Location to 78247.
Examples:
CUBS FAN SMOKING IN AISLE 224 ROW 5
CUBS FAN USING INAPPROPRIATE LANGUAGE IN AISLE 425 ROW 7
CUBS INAPPROPRIATE BEHAVIOR BETWEEN FANS IN AISLE 112 ROW 8
Once we have received your message we will have a member of our event operations staff handle and respond to the incoming request. The staff member can send reply messages directly to your phone to help answer questions or obtain more information. If necessary the staff will be able to quickly dispatch safety/security, medical or event operations staff.
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This is just what we need a fucking police state. Good citizens turn in your comrades. What is this fucking 1984? If you text in a complaint you're a fucking rat bastard. If you don't have the balls to ask someone to stop smoking, cursing, etc in person then just sit there in your own piss and text your mom.
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Generally, I agree with your sentiment. However, if you are there with your kids, you can't risk confronting a stranger regarding behavioral issues.
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Son: Daddy, that man just blew smoke in my face.
Dad: Just hold your breath while I text security.
Son: Wow, Dad you're my hero. I've learned a valuable lesson on how to avoid conflict today. By the way, I'm gay, and I'm pretty sure you are too. In fact, Mom told me you haven't touched her in months. You're whole life is a lie, isn't it? Instead of texting the cops, Dad, why don't you just offer to give the nice man a handy if he'll stop smoking. I hate you. You ruined my life.
Is that what you want to happen. cause that exact scenario happened to Greg Luganious. And we all saw where he ended up.
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<!--quoteo(post=60462:date=Aug 27 2009, 04:13 PM:name=veryzer)-->QUOTE (veryzer @ Aug 27 2009, 04:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=60380:date=Aug 27 2009, 01:11 PM:name=Scarey)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Scarey @ Aug 27 2009, 01:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I don't think the Cubs want to broadcast isolated incidents of racism in their stadium. If it were to happen, I would think they would try to keep it low key. The fan was kicked out for "unruley behavior".
Look, you guys wanna believe that fans will dump beer on players, throw garbage at players, run on the field of play, interfere with the play, attack players, attack umpires, attack coaches... but won't yell a racial slur? Ok, I give in. If you can't beat them, join them.
Fuck Bradley. Fucking douchebag is throwing around lies about Cubs fans to save his own ass and deflect his bad play from months ago. I can't wait to see him out of a Cub uniform. Scratch that, I can't wait to see him burn in hell where he belongs with all the other assholes that throw the race card around to take advantage of others.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
now who's failing to read?
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Failing to read what? I used hyperbole, but I didn't try to contend a point that others were clearly not making in doing so.
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<!--quoteo(post=60468:date=Aug 27 2009, 04:23 PM:name=Scarey)-->QUOTE (Scarey @ Aug 27 2009, 04:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=60462:date=Aug 27 2009, 04:13 PM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Aug 27 2009, 04:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=60380:date=Aug 27 2009, 01:11 PM:name=Scarey)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Scarey @ Aug 27 2009, 01:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I don't think the Cubs want to broadcast isolated incidents of racism in their stadium. If it were to happen, I would think they would try to keep it low key. The fan was kicked out for "unruley behavior".
Look, you guys wanna believe that fans will dump beer on players, throw garbage at players, run on the field of play, interfere with the play, attack players, attack umpires, attack coaches... but won't yell a racial slur? Ok, I give in. If you can't beat them, join them.
Fuck Bradley. Fucking douchebag is throwing around lies about Cubs fans to save his own ass and deflect his bad play from months ago. I can't wait to see him out of a Cub uniform. Scratch that, I can't wait to see him burn in hell where he belongs with all the other assholes that throw the race card around to take advantage of others.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
now who's failing to read?
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Failing to read what? I used hyperbole, but I didn't try to make to contend a point that others were clearly not making in doing so.
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because everyone in this thread admitted that racism occurs at wrigley and every other stadium in the world. i just think the incidents are isolated and rare.
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<!--quoteo(post=60469:date=Aug 27 2009, 04:25 PM:name=veryzer)-->QUOTE (veryzer @ Aug 27 2009, 04:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=60468:date=Aug 27 2009, 04:23 PM:name=Scarey)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Scarey @ Aug 27 2009, 04:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=60462:date=Aug 27 2009, 04:13 PM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Aug 27 2009, 04:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=60380:date=Aug 27 2009, 01:11 PM:name=Scarey)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Scarey @ Aug 27 2009, 01:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I don't think the Cubs want to broadcast isolated incidents of racism in their stadium. If it were to happen, I would think they would try to keep it low key. The fan was kicked out for "unruley behavior".
Look, you guys wanna believe that fans will dump beer on players, throw garbage at players, run on the field of play, interfere with the play, attack players, attack umpires, attack coaches... but won't yell a racial slur? Ok, I give in. If you can't beat them, join them.
Fuck Bradley. Fucking douchebag is throwing around lies about Cubs fans to save his own ass and deflect his bad play from months ago. I can't wait to see him out of a Cub uniform. Scratch that, I can't wait to see him burn in hell where he belongs with all the other assholes that throw the race card around to take advantage of others.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
now who's failing to read?
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Failing to read what? I used hyperbole, but I didn't try to make to contend a point that others were clearly not making in doing so.
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because everyone in this thread admitted that racism occurs at wrigley and every other stadium in the world. i just think the incidents are isolated and rare.
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That's just it Tom, numerous times in this thread people said it does not happen. I think you just said that Bradley is full of shit which is not the same thing. Others have said that there's no way it's happening because security would have heard them and kicked them out and we all would have heard about it.
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Bradley accused the police of being racist in Ohio, his teammates(Jeff Kent) of being racist in LA, the GM(Billy Beane) of being racist in Oakland, the media of being racist in Texas and now the fans of being racist in Chicago.
Look, do I believe racism exists in this country? Absolutely. But when a guy has problems in every city he plays in to the point that he is all but run out of each town, at what point does he need to look in the mirror to see what the problem is?
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