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What does Miles have on Lou and Jim?
#1
Looking at the numbers, it is becoming clear that Aaron Miles must have some discriminating pictures of Lou and/or Hendry. Why else would Lou decide to bat Aaron in the 2 spot last night?

My understanding was that Miles was brought in during the offseason to be a veteran presence and to back up second, shortstop and third. The Cubs wanted to make certain they had a back up plan in case Fontenot couldn't hack it as an everyday player and/or to spell Theriot so he wouldn't tire and slump late in the season.

Early on the Cubs realized that Aaron can't play third better than Fontenot - which is saying he can't play third. Basically, Aaron plays second base and has had a few starts at short. The concept that he would be used as a utility man appears to have gone out the window.

So how has Aaron done so far?

Miles has played in 47 games. The Cubs record in games that Aaron has played in is 27 - 20. Before I started this rant, I expected the Cubs record with Aaron to be below 500. You see Aaron recently came off the DL after 33 games. During this DL stint, the Cubs went 22 - 11 - a 667 win %. One reason for the Cubs outstanding win % during Aaron's absence is due to the level of competition. The Cubs played Reds, Nationals, Houston and Pittsburgh during this stretch all of which have losing records.

So I decided to dig a bit deeper into the numbers.

It turns out that when Miles has 3 or more AB in a game, basically when Aaron starts, the Cubs record is 14 - 17, a 452 win %. If you apply this win % to the 106 game played, the Cubs record would be 49 - 57 which would earn the Cubs fourth place in the NL Central.

I don't have anything against Miles but hopefully Lou will start using him as a once a week back up or a late inning defensive replacement. (Cubs are 13-3 when Aaron gets less than 3 AB in a game.) Miles offensive skills have eroded and there is very little reason to think that he will find them any time this season.
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#2
<!--quoteo(post=56253:date=Aug 7 2009, 10:34 AM:name=1060Ivy)-->QUOTE (1060Ivy @ Aug 7 2009, 10:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Looking at the numbers, it is becoming clear that Aaron Miles must have some discriminating pictures of Lou and/or Hendry. Why else would Lou decide to bat Aaron in the 2 spot last night?

My understanding was that Miles was brought in during the offseason to be a veteran presence and to back up second, shortstop and third. The Cubs wanted to make certain they had a back up plan in case Fontenot couldn't hack it as an everyday player and/or to spell Theriot so he wouldn't tire and slump late in the season.

Early on the Cubs realized that Aaron can't play third better than Fontenot - which is saying he can't play third. Basically, Aaron plays second base and has had a few starts at short. The concept that he would be used as a utility man appears to have gone out the window.

So how has Aaron done so far?

Miles has played in 47 games. The Cubs record in games that Aaron has played in is 27 - 20. Before I started this rant, I expected the Cubs record with Aaron to be below 500. You see Aaron recently came off the DL after 33 games. During this DL stint, the Cubs went 22 - 11 - a 667 win %. One reason for the Cubs outstanding win % during Aaron's absence is due to the level of competition. The Cubs played Reds, Nationals, Houston and Pittsburgh during this stretch all of which have losing records.

So I decided to dig a bit deeper into the numbers.

It turns out that when Miles has 3 or more AB in a game, basically when Aaron starts, the Cubs record is 14 - 17, a 452 win %. If you apply this win % to the 106 game played, the Cubs record would be 49 - 57 which would earn the Cubs fourth place in the NL Central.

I don't have anything against Miles but hopefully Lou will start using him as a once a week back up or a late inning defensive replacement. (Cubs are 13-3 when Aaron gets less than 3 AB in a game.) Miles offensive skills have eroded and there is very little reason to think that he will find them any time this season.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I'm sold. Let's stone him.
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#3
Send him to the Sox?
I hate my pretentious sounding username too.
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#4
<!--quoteo(post=56257:date=Aug 7 2009, 11:05 AM:name=jstraw)-->QUOTE (jstraw @ Aug 7 2009, 11:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=56253:date=Aug 7 2009, 10:34 AM:name=1060Ivy)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (1060Ivy @ Aug 7 2009, 10:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Looking at the numbers, it is becoming clear that Aaron Miles must have some discriminating pictures of Lou and/or Hendry. Why else would Lou decide to bat Aaron in the 2 spot last night?

My understanding was that Miles was brought in during the offseason to be a veteran presence and to back up second, shortstop and third. The Cubs wanted to make certain they had a back up plan in case Fontenot couldn't hack it as an everyday player and/or to spell Theriot so he wouldn't tire and slump late in the season.

Early on the Cubs realized that Aaron can't play third better than Fontenot - which is saying he can't play third. Basically, Aaron plays second base and has had a few starts at short. The concept that he would be used as a utility man appears to have gone out the window.

So how has Aaron done so far?

Miles has played in 47 games. The Cubs record in games that Aaron has played in is 27 - 20. Before I started this rant, I expected the Cubs record with Aaron to be below 500. You see Aaron recently came off the DL after 33 games. During this DL stint, the Cubs went 22 - 11 - a 667 win %. One reason for the Cubs outstanding win % during Aaron's absence is due to the level of competition. The Cubs played Reds, Nationals, Houston and Pittsburgh during this stretch all of which have losing records.

So I decided to dig a bit deeper into the numbers.

It turns out that when Miles has 3 or more AB in a game, basically when Aaron starts, the Cubs record is 14 - 17, a 452 win %. If you apply this win % to the 106 game played, the Cubs record would be 49 - 57 which would earn the Cubs fourth place in the NL Central.

I don't have anything against Miles but hopefully Lou will start using him as a once a week back up or a late inning defensive replacement. (Cubs are 13-3 when Aaron gets less than 3 AB in a game.) Miles offensive skills have eroded and there is very little reason to think that he will find them any time this season.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I'm sold. Let's stone him.
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You want to force him out of the organization and have Merker and Alou yell at him?
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#5
<!--quoteo(post=56339:date=Aug 7 2009, 05:02 PM:name=PcB)-->QUOTE (PcB @ Aug 7 2009, 05:02 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=56257:date=Aug 7 2009, 11:05 AM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Aug 7 2009, 11:05 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=56253:date=Aug 7 2009, 10:34 AM:name=1060Ivy)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (1060Ivy @ Aug 7 2009, 10:34 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Looking at the numbers, it is becoming clear that Aaron Miles must have some discriminating pictures of Lou and/or Hendry. Why else would Lou decide to bat Aaron in the 2 spot last night?

My understanding was that Miles was brought in during the offseason to be a veteran presence and to back up second, shortstop and third. The Cubs wanted to make certain they had a back up plan in case Fontenot couldn't hack it as an everyday player and/or to spell Theriot so he wouldn't tire and slump late in the season.

Early on the Cubs realized that Aaron can't play third better than Fontenot - which is saying he can't play third. Basically, Aaron plays second base and has had a few starts at short. The concept that he would be used as a utility man appears to have gone out the window.

So how has Aaron done so far?

Miles has played in 47 games. The Cubs record in games that Aaron has played in is 27 - 20. Before I started this rant, I expected the Cubs record with Aaron to be below 500. You see Aaron recently came off the DL after 33 games. During this DL stint, the Cubs went 22 - 11 - a 667 win %. One reason for the Cubs outstanding win % during Aaron's absence is due to the level of competition. The Cubs played Reds, Nationals, Houston and Pittsburgh during this stretch all of which have losing records.

So I decided to dig a bit deeper into the numbers.

It turns out that when Miles has 3 or more AB in a game, basically when Aaron starts, the Cubs record is 14 - 17, a 452 win %. If you apply this win % to the 106 game played, the Cubs record would be 49 - 57 which would earn the Cubs fourth place in the NL Central.

I don't have anything against Miles but hopefully Lou will start using him as a once a week back up or a late inning defensive replacement. (Cubs are 13-3 when Aaron gets less than 3 AB in a game.) Miles offensive skills have eroded and there is very little reason to think that he will find them any time this season.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->


I'm sold. Let's stone him.
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You want to force him out of the organization and have Merker and Alou yell at him?
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Works for me.
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#6
I hope Lou puts him in to pitch in tonight's game and he blows his arm out.
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#7
I think signing a AAAA guy in his 30's to a 2-year, 5 million dollar deal in the midst of a deep recession, and then trading last year's team MVP to make room for him was a fine idea.
It has worked out exactly as we all thought it would.
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#8
<!--quoteo(post=56429:date=Aug 8 2009, 12:53 PM:name=KBwsb)-->QUOTE (KBwsb @ Aug 8 2009, 12:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I think signing a AAAA guy in his 30's to a 2-year, 5 million dollar deal in the midst of a deep recession, and then trading last year's team MVP to make room for him was a fine idea.
It has worked out exactly as we all thought it would.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I don't understand why we don't just cut him loose and eat the remainder of his contract. Having an open roster spot is worth it.
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#9
As bad as Aaron Miles is, and he is bad, using team performance during his start as an indicator of his contributions, or lack thereof, isn't a great method of proving his suckitude.
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#10
<!--quoteo(post=56445:date=Aug 8 2009, 02:21 PM:name=FlyAtTheThigh)-->QUOTE (FlyAtTheThigh @ Aug 8 2009, 02:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->As bad as Aaron Miles is, and he is bad, using team performance during his start as an indicator of his contributions, or lack thereof, isn't a great method of proving his suckitude.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Miles individual stats also proves he sucks. They are clear for all to see but he still plays. Miles has one of the lowest BA and OPS of any position player in MLB with over 120 AB.

If his individual stats don't seem to matter I thought maybe there was something regarding team performance that doesn't show up in his stats. Unfortunately, there isn't.

Looking at team performance when Miles gets 3 or more than ABs - when Miles starts - the Cubs score 3.84 runs and 4.75 runs when he either doesn't play or gets less than 3 ABs.
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#11
<!--quoteo(post=56448:date=Aug 8 2009, 03:50 PM:name=1060Ivy)-->QUOTE (1060Ivy @ Aug 8 2009, 03:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=56445:date=Aug 8 2009, 02:21 PM:name=FlyAtTheThigh)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (FlyAtTheThigh @ Aug 8 2009, 02:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->As bad as Aaron Miles is, and he is bad, using team performance during his start as an indicator of his contributions, or lack thereof, isn't a great method of proving his suckitude.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Miles individual stats also proves he sucks. They are clear for all to see but he still plays. Miles has one of the lowest BA and OPS of any position player in MLB with over 120 AB.

If his individual stats don't seem to matter I thought maybe there was something regarding team performance that doesn't show up in his stats. Unfortunately, there isn't.

Looking at team performance when Miles gets 3 or more than ABs - when Miles starts - the Cubs score 3.84 runs and 4.75 runs when he either doesn't play or gets less than 3 ABs.
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For these numbers to mean anything, though, would require us to believe that there is a run per game difference between Miles and Theriot/Fontenot, whoever he is replacing. I seriously doubt there is a run per game difference between any two players in baseball.
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#12
<!--quoteo(post=56450:date=Aug 8 2009, 03:17 PM:name=FlyAtTheThigh)-->QUOTE (FlyAtTheThigh @ Aug 8 2009, 03:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=56448:date=Aug 8 2009, 03:50 PM:name=1060Ivy)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (1060Ivy @ Aug 8 2009, 03:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=56445:date=Aug 8 2009, 02:21 PM:name=FlyAtTheThigh)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (FlyAtTheThigh @ Aug 8 2009, 02:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->As bad as Aaron Miles is, and he is bad, using team performance during his start as an indicator of his contributions, or lack thereof, isn't a great method of proving his suckitude.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

Miles individual stats also proves he sucks. They are clear for all to see but he still plays. Miles has one of the lowest BA and OPS of any position player in MLB with over 120 AB.

If his individual stats don't seem to matter I thought maybe there was something regarding team performance that doesn't show up in his stats. Unfortunately, there isn't.

Looking at team performance when Miles gets 3 or more than ABs - when Miles starts - the Cubs score 3.84 runs and 4.75 runs when he either doesn't play or gets less than 3 ABs.
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For these numbers to mean anything, though, would require us to believe that there is a run per game difference between Miles and Theriot/Fontenot, whoever he is replacing. I seriously doubt there is a run per game difference between any two players in baseball.
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Would you believe that there is a run per game differential between Miles and Aramis Ramirez?

Thought about it for a few minutes but haven't checked the games but I recall that Aramis returned to the lineup sometime during Aaron's trip to the DL. Aramis returned from the DL up in early July while Miles went on late June.
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#13
I doubt there'd be a run per game difference between Manny Ramirez and Ryan Freel.
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#14
<!--quoteo(post=56464:date=Aug 8 2009, 05:58 PM:name=jstraw)-->QUOTE (jstraw @ Aug 8 2009, 05:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I doubt there'd be a run per game difference between Manny Ramirez and Ryan Freel.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

That was my point. A run per game difference due to the addition of one player over another is almost, if not completely, impossible.
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<!--quoteo(post=56472:date=Aug 8 2009, 06:34 PM:name=FlyAtTheThigh)-->QUOTE (FlyAtTheThigh @ Aug 8 2009, 06:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=56464:date=Aug 8 2009, 05:58 PM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Aug 8 2009, 05:58 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I doubt there'd be a run per game difference between Manny Ramirez and Ryan Freel.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

That was my point. A run per game difference due to the addition of one player over another is almost, if not completely, impossible.
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I know. I agree with you.
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