Cubs vs Braves 6/22/2009

[ruby23]

Hoffpauir is actually kinda sorta starting to look servicable in RF.

[jeffy]

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This team is not going anywhere without a shakeup--maybe after a 4 game winning streak is not the time to have it. But after the next 4 game losing streak...perhaps.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The team went places the past 2 years... I don't know how you can be so confident that this team is going nowhere.
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40 years of observation--that's why. Absent a major move, the Cubs will finish no higher than 3rd--write it down.
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I'll write down, but you'll probably be wrong. This team is still built to win, I just think they'd be better equipped if someone else was calling the shots.
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I'd love to be wrong. I would take no pleasure in being right about this. But it's almost the end of June and the Cubs are nothing but mediocre--even in a shitty division.
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See also: 2003, 2007
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So you believe they're fine? With no major moves?
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Do I think they can win without firing Lou? Yes. What other move could be made?
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So you do think they're fine? Ok. Glad you have the optimism. I wish I had some of that Kool Aid.
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We're just barely out of first right now, even though we've been sucking, which means if we're able to get some of our cold players hot and get Ramirez back, we could make up those few games. I can't see why it requires Kool Aid to think we just might stand a chance when we're not even to the ASB yet.

[Destined]

We'll be fine. No way we're getting shut out tonight. Here come the runs.

[ruby23]

<!--quoteo(post=45709:date=Jun 22 2009, 08:59 PM:name=Destined)-->QUOTE (Destined @ Jun 22 2009, 08:59 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->We'll be fine. No way we're getting shut out tonight. Here come the runs.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I doubt it.

[Lance]

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This team is not going anywhere without a shakeup--maybe after a 4 game winning streak is not the time to have it. But after the next 4 game losing streak...perhaps.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The team went places the past 2 years... I don't know how you can be so confident that this team is going nowhere.
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40 years of observation--that's why. Absent a major move, the Cubs will finish no higher than 3rd--write it down.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'll write down, but you'll probably be wrong. This team is still built to win, I just think they'd be better equipped if someone else was calling the shots.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->

I'd love to be wrong. I would take no pleasure in being right about this. But it's almost the end of June and the Cubs are nothing but mediocre--even in a shitty division.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
See also: 2003, 2007
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So you believe they're fine? With no major moves?
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Do I think they can win without firing Lou? Yes. What other move could be made?
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So you do think they're fine? Ok. Glad you have the optimism. I wish I had some of that Kool Aid.
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Without making a single move, the Cubs (at worst) are gonna be in contention into September, without a doubt.
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I can see that--given the crappy division. I believe they'd have a much better chance by canning Lou. On the other hand, Chicago is almost as bad of a fishbowl as New York, so I'm not sure anyone they chose to replace him would be anything more than a distraction. Except, perhaps Trammel.

[ruby23]

Blanco blows an O-ring on the basehit.

[ruby23]

DP to end the game right here.

[Lance]

Milton Bradley has been a profound disappointment Even when he's been healthy. Should have seen that one coming. I was wrongly optimistic.

[ruby23]

Cards lose too, no harm, no foul.

[rok]

Back to our old tricks again...

[rok]

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He's so mediocre from the left side. Good thing we got him for his ability to hit from both sides.

[Destined]

<!--quoteo(post=45715:date=Jun 22 2009, 07:09 PM:name=ruby23)-->QUOTE (ruby23 @ Jun 22 2009, 07:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Cards lose too, no harm, no foul.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Agreed.

[dk123]

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He's so mediocre from the left side. Good thing we got him for his ability to hit from both sides.
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I guess Hendry has a knack for irony.

[vitaminB]

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100% agree. He's already over 100 pitches.
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I was at the game last night and i was utterly pissed. I thought for sure we'd see Bradley leading off the 7th. I don't know why Lou would just give away an out like that knowing how hard it is for this team to score runs.

[ruby23]

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100% agree. He's already over 100 pitches.
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I was at the game last night and i was utterly pissed. I thought for sure we'd see Bradley leading off the 7th. I don't know why Lou would just give away an out like that knowing how hard it is for this team to score runs.
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Because Lou's a retard.