soi keeper fantasy football

[Kid]

The draft is currently set for the evening of Labor Day. I'm going out of town that weekend and I'm not sure that I'll be home yet. Can we get a different date?

[Ace]

<!--quoteo(post=110163:date=Aug 6 2010, 09:51 PM:name=liner)-->QUOTE (liner @ Aug 6 2010, 09:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=110141:date=Aug 6 2010, 06:09 PM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Aug 6 2010, 06:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->If it's keeper, but the new folks get stuck with leftovers, I'll probably just pass.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

what do you mean? it was set up last year as a keeper league, a couple teams dropped. i thought you guys were lining up to take over those teams, no? what do you mean by leftovers?
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I just mean if every other team has gotten to set their keepers (and it's more than just a couple keepers), and then anyone new joining re-drafts from whatever is leftover, I'd pass.

I literally know *nothing* of the rules of the league, so I didn't know what you were planning to do for new folks. I'm lining up to be in the league to play with friends - not necessarily lining up to take over a particular team. I don't even know what the teams look like, who's on them, and who/how many are the keepers. I don't even know if there's actually a spot for me.

[PcB]

If we lose our keepers I'm not going to be pleased. AP and Megatron are mine!

[Ace]

<!--quoteo(post=110177:date=Aug 7 2010, 09:21 AM:name=PcB)-->QUOTE (PcB @ Aug 7 2010, 09:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->If we lose our keepers I'm not going to be pleased. AP and Megatron are mine!<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

And that's understandable. If the league only adds a couple of guys - me and bz, for example - there's no reason you guys should have your teams completely jacked up.

[PcB]

<!--quoteo(post=110178:date=Aug 7 2010, 08:31 AM:name=Ace)-->QUOTE (Ace @ Aug 7 2010, 08:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=110177:date=Aug 7 2010, 09:21 AM:name=PcB)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PcB @ Aug 7 2010, 09:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->If we lose our keepers I'm not going to be pleased. AP and Megatron are mine!<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

And that's understandable. If the league only adds a couple of guys - me and bz, for example - there's no reason you guys should have your teams completely jacked up.
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Good. I need them to repeat.

[cigar]

Are we still doing the deal that when we keep a guy we lose a draft pick based on where that keeper was picked? At least I know something like that was talked about.

[Ace]

<!--quoteo(post=110179:date=Aug 7 2010, 09:40 AM:name=PcB)-->QUOTE (PcB @ Aug 7 2010, 09:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=110178:date=Aug 7 2010, 08:31 AM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Aug 7 2010, 08:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=110177:date=Aug 7 2010, 09:21 AM:name=PcB)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PcB @ Aug 7 2010, 09:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->If we lose our keepers I'm not going to be pleased. AP and Megatron are mine!<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

And that's understandable. If the league only adds a couple of guys - me and bz, for example - there's no reason you guys should have your teams completely jacked up.
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Good. I need them to repeat.
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How many do you guys keep?

[PcB]

<!--quoteo(post=110181:date=Aug 7 2010, 08:43 AM:name=Ace)-->QUOTE (Ace @ Aug 7 2010, 08:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=110179:date=Aug 7 2010, 09:40 AM:name=PcB)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PcB @ Aug 7 2010, 09:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=110178:date=Aug 7 2010, 08:31 AM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Aug 7 2010, 08:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=110177:date=Aug 7 2010, 09:21 AM:name=PcB)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PcB @ Aug 7 2010, 09:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->If we lose our keepers I'm not going to be pleased. AP and Megatron are mine!<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

And that's understandable. If the league only adds a couple of guys - me and bz, for example - there's no reason you guys should have your teams completely jacked up.
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Good. I need them to repeat.
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How many do you guys keep?
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I thought 2.


Also it won't let me create a team. I keep getting this message
-Your invitation to that league no longer appears to be valid. Please speak to your commissioner. (Error #447)-

Someone make this right.

[Ace]

<!--quoteo(post=110182:date=Aug 7 2010, 09:44 AM:name=PcB)-->QUOTE (PcB @ Aug 7 2010, 09:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=110181:date=Aug 7 2010, 08:43 AM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Aug 7 2010, 08:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=110179:date=Aug 7 2010, 09:40 AM:name=PcB)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PcB @ Aug 7 2010, 09:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=110178:date=Aug 7 2010, 08:31 AM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Aug 7 2010, 08:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=110177:date=Aug 7 2010, 09:21 AM:name=PcB)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PcB @ Aug 7 2010, 09:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->If we lose our keepers I'm not going to be pleased. AP and Megatron are mine!<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

And that's understandable. If the league only adds a couple of guys - me and bz, for example - there's no reason you guys should have your teams completely jacked up.
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Good. I need them to repeat.
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How many do you guys keep?
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I thought 2.


Also it won't let me create a team. I keep getting this message
-Your invitation to that league no longer appears to be valid. Please speak to your commissioner. (Error #447)-

Someone make this right.
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Then my concerns are probably allayed, assuming that you forgo a draft pick to keep a keeper (that's how it is in most leagues anyway). Anyone know who was on the teams that are open? And are there actually two open teams?

[PcB]

<!--quoteo(post=110184:date=Aug 7 2010, 08:49 AM:name=Ace)-->QUOTE (Ace @ Aug 7 2010, 08:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=110182:date=Aug 7 2010, 09:44 AM:name=PcB)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PcB @ Aug 7 2010, 09:44 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=110181:date=Aug 7 2010, 08:43 AM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Aug 7 2010, 08:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=110179:date=Aug 7 2010, 09:40 AM:name=PcB)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PcB @ Aug 7 2010, 09:40 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=110178:date=Aug 7 2010, 08:31 AM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Aug 7 2010, 08:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=110177:date=Aug 7 2010, 09:21 AM:name=PcB)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PcB @ Aug 7 2010, 09:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->If we lose our keepers I'm not going to be pleased. AP and Megatron are mine!<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

And that's understandable. If the league only adds a couple of guys - me and bz, for example - there's no reason you guys should have your teams completely jacked up.
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Good. I need them to repeat.
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How many do you guys keep?
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I thought 2.


Also it won't let me create a team. I keep getting this message
-Your invitation to that league no longer appears to be valid. Please speak to your commissioner. (Error #447)-

Someone make this right.
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Then my concerns are probably allayed, assuming that you forgo a draft pick to keep a keeper (that's how it is in most leagues anyway). Anyone know who was on the teams that are open? And are there actually two open teams?
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I know that Coldneck's starters were
QB - Cade McNown
RB - Rashaan Salaam
RB - "He Hate Me"
WR - Chris Henry
WR - David Terell
WR - Charles Rodgers
TE - Shannon Sharpe
K - Ray Finkle
DEF - 2008 Detroit Lions

You get to keep 2, so get to choosing.

[Ace]

Ok, so I just re-read the thread. As a preliminary matter, it looks like Bz, Ace, Coach, and CC expressed interest in joining, in that order - for whatever that ends up meaning.

It looks like there was a discussion of upping the league to 12 teams from 10, but it's hard to imagine a fair way to do keepers for the two new teams (which was my point to liner). If the league stays at 10, seems like having the new guys take over old teams wouldn't be the end of the world if the other 7 are desperate to do keepers starting last year (as opposed to this year).

As for the keeper rules, looks like you guys said you were going to keep 3 (sadly not 2), and you give up the draft spot at which you took the guy (not your first two picks, which is the way it is in most keeper leagues, and which promotes a little more competitive balance).

[PcB]

Coudn't we keep 2 players and have two people take over the 2 abandonded teams and add 2 new teams and be fine?

[Ace]

<!--quoteo(post=110188:date=Aug 7 2010, 10:09 AM:name=PcB)-->QUOTE (PcB @ Aug 7 2010, 10:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Coudn't we keep 2 players and have two people take over the 2 abandonded teams and add 2 new teams and be fine?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

The two new teams get kind of screwed, no?

[PcB]

<!--quoteo(post=110191:date=Aug 7 2010, 09:12 AM:name=Ace)-->QUOTE (Ace @ Aug 7 2010, 09:12 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=110188:date=Aug 7 2010, 10:09 AM:name=PcB)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (PcB @ Aug 7 2010, 10:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Coudn't we keep 2 players and have two people take over the 2 abandonded teams and add 2 new teams and be fine?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

The two new teams get kind of screwed, no?
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Yeah, I guess. I'm not really sure how to do this...

[BT]

I don't know how much time I'll have today to try to get this going. I've got friends in from out of town, and I'm going to see the National tonight.

In the meantime, if you received an invite earlier in the week, try using that link again. if it doesn't work, or there is anyone in the league that hasn't received an invite, PM me your name and email address and I'll get another invite out. if you are not in the league already, but want to be, do the same, but mention in the PM that you are not in the league.

By Monday, I'll try to post everyone's rosters. I think I have them saved at work.

Once we have an idea of how many of the original 10 are coming back, we can decide how to deal with new teams and new rosters.

I think the number of saved guys we decided on was 3, but if you guys want to do 2, that's fine. Bear in mind, anyone you keep, you have to use a draft pick in ONE HIGHER round to keep them, except obviously first rounders. In other words, if you drafted a guy in the 3rd round last year, you have to use a second round pick to keep him. That also means that you won't be able to save your first and second round draft picks from next year, unless you have 2 first round picks, as you need a first rounder to redraft either.

One other problem is that I have the original draft info, but if you guys made trades, I don't know that I have that information. That could be an issue, and I'm not sure how to get around it.

I'll try to update later today or tomorrow.