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Cubs in WBC - Andy - 12-11-2008
Ugh... lots of them.
From the Tribune.
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->Ramirez is expected to decline an invitation to play for the Dominican Republic in the World Baseball Classic. Sources said Ramirez likes to stay in his routine in the spring, and he probably would be a backup anyway if Alex Rodriguez<i> </i>starts at third for the Dominicans. … Among the Cubs expected to participate in the WBC are Soriano and Carlos Marmol<i> </i>(Dominican Republic), Geovany Soto<i> </i>(Puerto Rico), Fukudome<i> </i>(Japan), Dempster<i> </i>(Canada) and Lee<i> </i>(United States). Zambrano<i> </i>has not decided whether to play for Venezuela.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Cubs in WBC - sleepyhead - 12-11-2008
<!--quoteo(post=3679:date=Dec 11 2008, 08:52 AM:name=Andy)-->QUOTE (Andy @ Dec 11 2008, 08:52 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Ugh... lots of them.
From the Tribune.
<!--quoteo--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE <!--quotec-->Ramirez is expected to decline an invitation to play for the Dominican Republic in the World Baseball Classic. Sources said Ramirez likes to stay in his routine in the spring, and he probably would be a backup anyway if Alex Rodriguez<i> </i>starts at third for the Dominicans. … Among the Cubs expected to participate in the WBC are Soriano and Carlos Marmol<i> </i>(Dominican Republic), Geovany Soto<i> </i>(Puerto Rico), Fukudome<i> </i>(Japan), Dempster<i> </i>(Canada) and Lee<i> </i>(United States). Zambrano<i> </i>has not decided whether to play for Venezuela.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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Only pitchers really concern me, especially Marmol.
Cubs in WBC - Jody - 12-11-2008
I'm all for Fukudome playing in this thing, maybe it will help him get his shit together.
Cubs in WBC - veryzer - 12-11-2008
i hate this thing.
Cubs in WBC - cigar - 12-11-2008
I actually enjoyed it last time it was played. I was watching the Dominican Republic play Puerto Rico while my daughter was being born last time. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img] Truth is I was trying not to look down.
Cubs in WBC - rok - 12-11-2008
Will all the games be at odd times again? I think I may skip the whole thing again, though I have nothing but time now.
Cubs in WBC - veryzer - 12-11-2008
<!--quoteo(post=3705:date=Dec 11 2008, 10:13 AM:name=cigar)-->QUOTE (cigar @ Dec 11 2008, 10:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I actually enjoyed it last time it was played. I was watching the Dominican Republic play Puerto Rico while my daughter was being born last time. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img] Truth is I was trying not to look down.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
what bothers me is that some of our most important players are participating when they should be getting ready for the season. they're risking injury to participate in a meaningless series of games. i hate it.
they should be using amateurs or minor leaguers or college kids. it's not the games that bother me, it's the fact that important players are involved.
Cubs in WBC - cigar - 12-11-2008
I actually like that the hitters get to play in "meaningful" games. They may not be meaningful to us but I guarantee you they are to them. I understand your point on the pitchers though.
Cubs in WBC - ruby23 - 12-11-2008
Fukudome needs as much practice as he can get, everyone else needs to stay away.
Cubs in WBC - veryzer - 12-11-2008
<!--quoteo(post=3719:date=Dec 11 2008, 10:22 AM:name=cigar)-->QUOTE (cigar @ Dec 11 2008, 10:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I actually like that the hitters get to play in "meaningful" games. They may not be meaningful to us but I guarantee you they are to them. I understand your point on the pitchers though.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
but thats just it. the players do think it's meaningful, and thats why they could get hurt. plus, an added series of games may come back to bite them late in the summer when players start getting tired.
Cubs in WBC - Destined - 12-11-2008
<!--quoteo(post=3717:date=Dec 11 2008, 08:20 AM:name=veryzer)-->QUOTE (veryzer @ Dec 11 2008, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=3705:date=Dec 11 2008, 10:13 AM:name=cigar)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cigar @ Dec 11 2008, 10:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I actually enjoyed it last time it was played. I was watching the Dominican Republic play Puerto Rico while my daughter was being born last time. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img] Truth is I was trying not to look down.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
what bothers me is that some of our most important players are participating when they should be getting ready for the season. they're risking injury to participate in a meaningless series of games. i hate it.
they should be using amateurs or minor leaguers or college kids. it's not the games that bother me, it's the fact that important players are involved.
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Amateurs, Prospects and College kids? That's why Olympic baseball sucked. No star players. Nothing to attract anyone. No one wants to see Josh Vitters facing Kei Igawa in the title game. No one would watch.
I love this tournament.
The team to watch is Canada, because they'll be overlooked. They're freaking loaded.
Cubs in WBC - cigar - 12-11-2008
<!--quoteo(post=3725:date=Dec 11 2008, 10:25 AM:name=veryzer)-->QUOTE (veryzer @ Dec 11 2008, 10:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=3719:date=Dec 11 2008, 10:22 AM:name=cigar)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cigar @ Dec 11 2008, 10:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I actually like that the hitters get to play in "meaningful" games. They may not be meaningful to us but I guarantee you they are to them. I understand your point on the pitchers though.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
but thats just it. the players do think it's meaningful, and thats why they could get hurt. plus, an added series of games may come back to bite them late in the summer when players start getting tired.
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They could get hurt in ST to though. They could get hurt anytime they take the field.
They don't play near enough games in the WBC to where it actually wears the players down later in the season. I don't believe that for a second.
Cubs in WBC - veryzer - 12-11-2008
<!--quoteo(post=3726:date=Dec 11 2008, 10:25 AM:name=CD2W)-->QUOTE (CD2W @ Dec 11 2008, 10:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=3717:date=Dec 11 2008, 08:20 AM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Dec 11 2008, 08:20 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=3705:date=Dec 11 2008, 10:13 AM:name=cigar)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cigar @ Dec 11 2008, 10:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I actually enjoyed it last time it was played. I was watching the Dominican Republic play Puerto Rico while my daughter was being born last time. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/laugh.gif[/img] Truth is I was trying not to look down.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
what bothers me is that some of our most important players are participating when they should be getting ready for the season. they're risking injury to participate in a meaningless series of games. i hate it.
they should be using amateurs or minor leaguers or college kids. it's not the games that bother me, it's the fact that important players are involved.
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Amateurs, Prospects and College kids? That's why Olympic baseball sucked. No star players. Nothing to attract anyone. No one wants to see Josh Vitters facing Kei Igawa in the title game. No one would watch.
I love this tournament.
The team to watch is Canada, because they'll be overlooked. They're freaking loaded.
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thanks for the economy lesson. i'm well aware of why they want star players playing. i really don't give a shit if anyone watches. if soriano blows out his leg again, or dempster blows out his arm, or marmol takes a line drive off his face, ill be irate.
it's stupid to risk your star players for a series thats only motivated by revenue and nothing else.
oh, and fuck the canadien team. why would anyone give a shit?
Cubs in WBC - veryzer - 12-11-2008
<!--quoteo(post=3728:date=Dec 11 2008, 10:27 AM:name=cigar)-->QUOTE (cigar @ Dec 11 2008, 10:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=3725:date=Dec 11 2008, 10:25 AM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Dec 11 2008, 10:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=3719:date=Dec 11 2008, 10:22 AM:name=cigar)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cigar @ Dec 11 2008, 10:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I actually like that the hitters get to play in "meaningful" games. They may not be meaningful to us but I guarantee you they are to them. I understand your point on the pitchers though.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
but thats just it. the players do think it's meaningful, and thats why they could get hurt. plus, an added series of games may come back to bite them late in the summer when players start getting tired.
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They could get hurt in ST to though. They could get hurt anytime they take the field.
They don't play near enough games in the WBC to where it actually wears the players down later in the season. I don't believe that for a second.
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i think the odds of players getting hurt in spring training are less. sure, it happens, but when players aren't playing balls out, not diving for balls they normally would, not pitching in pressure situations, not running balls out from base to base, theres a lot less chance of injury. just my opinion.
Cubs in WBC - cigar - 12-11-2008
<!--quoteo(post=3733:date=Dec 11 2008, 10:31 AM:name=veryzer)-->QUOTE (veryzer @ Dec 11 2008, 10:31 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=3728:date=Dec 11 2008, 10:27 AM:name=cigar)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cigar @ Dec 11 2008, 10:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=3725:date=Dec 11 2008, 10:25 AM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Dec 11 2008, 10:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=3719:date=Dec 11 2008, 10:22 AM:name=cigar)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (cigar @ Dec 11 2008, 10:22 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I actually like that the hitters get to play in "meaningful" games. They may not be meaningful to us but I guarantee you they are to them. I understand your point on the pitchers though.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
but thats just it. the players do think it's meaningful, and thats why they could get hurt. plus, an added series of games may come back to bite them late in the summer when players start getting tired.
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They could get hurt in ST to though. They could get hurt anytime they take the field.
They don't play near enough games in the WBC to where it actually wears the players down later in the season. I don't believe that for a second.
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i think the odds of players getting hurt in spring training are less. sure, it happens, but when players aren't playing balls out, not diving for balls they normally would, not pitching in pressure situations, not running balls out from base to base, theres a lot less chance of injury. just my opinion.
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You are probably right. However I just believe that they can get hurt anytime they take the field.