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The Ditching Marquis Thread - Ace - 12-26-2008
Figure he's gonna be a prominent part of our rumors for the rest of the off-season, might as well have his own thread.
There is a recent Rockies article that says they're still very interested, and would possibly trade us David Patton - the guy we took in the Rule V draft (technically, the Reds took him and sent him to us). The trade seems weird, because we already have the dude, but by "trading" him to us, we wouldn't have to keep him on the 25-man all year to "keep" him.
That said, Patton doesn't strike me as a particularly good return for Marquis unless the Rockies are taking ALL of his salary. Even then, I still feel like Marquis, in this market, only signed for one year, should be attractive to a few teams.
The Ditching Marquis Thread - bz - 12-26-2008
Patton looks kind of sucky.
The Ditching Marquis Thread - rok - 12-26-2008
I still feel there is a better than 50% chance that Marquis is still a Cub opening day, but we'll see. If we are simply trading him to make room for another player then fine, but if we're shedding payroll for economic reasons, then I will be unhappy. And we'd better not be paying more that 2-3 mil under any circumstance unless we're getting something decent in return.
The Ditching Marquis Thread - Clapp - 12-26-2008
We should only be trading Marquis if we're getting another starting pitcher.
The Ditching Marquis Thread - Auz - 12-26-2008
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Bingo... At the moment, we have no one to replace him.
The Ditching Marquis Thread - Brock - 12-26-2008
<!--quoteo(post=7030:date=Dec 26 2008, 05:46 PM:name=Dingo)-->QUOTE (Dingo @ Dec 26 2008, 05:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=7026:date=Dec 27 2008, 10:33 AM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Dec 27 2008, 10:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->We should only be trading Marquis if we're getting another starting pitcher.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Bingo... At the moment, we have no one to replace him.
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Marshall?
The Ditching Marquis Thread - Clapp - 12-26-2008
<!--quoteo(post=7031:date=Dec 26 2008, 06:53 PM:name=Brock)-->QUOTE (Brock @ Dec 26 2008, 06:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=7030:date=Dec 26 2008, 05:46 PM:name=Dingo)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Dingo @ Dec 26 2008, 05:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=7026:date=Dec 27 2008, 10:33 AM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Dec 27 2008, 10:33 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->We should only be trading Marquis if we're getting another starting pitcher.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Bingo... At the moment, we have no one to replace him.
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Marshall?
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We need 6 starting pitchers with Harden. Marquis is better than all of our other options.
I was under the assumption we could afford Bradley without dealing Marquis. It was getting him and Peavy that required a Marquis trade.
The Ditching Marquis Thread - CFOrfan - 12-26-2008
I really like Marshall, I do, but he has never pitched more than 125 innings in his pro career. I don't want to trust him unless we have a backup plan, which we don't. Keep Marquis.
The Ditching Marquis Thread - Clapp - 12-26-2008
<!--quoteo(post=7034:date=Dec 26 2008, 06:31 PM:name=CFOrfan)-->QUOTE (CFOrfan @ Dec 26 2008, 06:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I really like Marshall, I do, but he has never pitched more than 125 innings in his pro career. I don't want to trust him unless we have a backup plan, which we don't. Keep Marquis.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yep. Pretty much it's Marquis or Peavy.
The Ditching Marquis Thread - Ace - 12-26-2008
<!--quoteo(post=7036:date=Dec 26 2008, 07:49 PM:name=Clapp)-->QUOTE (Clapp @ Dec 26 2008, 07:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=7034:date=Dec 26 2008, 06:31 PM:name=CFOrfan)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CFOrfan @ Dec 26 2008, 06:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I really like Marshall, I do, but he has never pitched more than 125 innings in his pro career. I don't want to trust him unless we have a backup plan, which we don't. Keep Marquis.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yep. Pretty much it's Marquis or Peavy.
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Or someone like Randy Johnson (which doesn't make a ton of sense to me).
The Ditching Marquis Thread - Captain - 12-26-2008
<!--quoteo(post=7039:date=Dec 26 2008, 07:29 PM:name=Ace)-->QUOTE (Ace @ Dec 26 2008, 07:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=7036:date=Dec 26 2008, 07:49 PM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Dec 26 2008, 07:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=7034:date=Dec 26 2008, 06:31 PM:name=CFOrfan)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CFOrfan @ Dec 26 2008, 06:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I really like Marshall, I do, but he has never pitched more than 125 innings in his pro career. I don't want to trust him unless we have a backup plan, which we don't. Keep Marquis.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yep. Pretty much it's Marquis or Peavy.
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Or someone like Randy Johnson (which doesn't make a ton of sense to me).
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He signed with the Giants today.
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8992702...with-the-Giants
The Ditching Marquis Thread - rok - 12-26-2008
<!--quoteo(post=7042:date=Dec 26 2008, 08:57 PM:name=Captain)-->QUOTE (Captain @ Dec 26 2008, 08:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=7039:date=Dec 26 2008, 07:29 PM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Dec 26 2008, 07:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=7036:date=Dec 26 2008, 07:49 PM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Dec 26 2008, 07:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=7034:date=Dec 26 2008, 06:31 PM:name=CFOrfan)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CFOrfan @ Dec 26 2008, 06:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I really like Marshall, I do, but he has never pitched more than 125 innings in his pro career. I don't want to trust him unless we have a backup plan, which we don't. Keep Marquis.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yep. Pretty much it's Marquis or Peavy.
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Or someone like Randy Johnson (which doesn't make a ton of sense to me).
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He signed with the Giants today.
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8992702...with-the-Giants
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I was really hoping that he'd sign somewhere in the AL instead. I know we don't face the Giants much, but his 1-2 starts against us are guaranteed losses.
The Ditching Marquis Thread - Ace - 12-26-2008
<!--quoteo(post=7042:date=Dec 26 2008, 09:57 PM:name=Captain)-->QUOTE (Captain @ Dec 26 2008, 09:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=7039:date=Dec 26 2008, 07:29 PM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Dec 26 2008, 07:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=7036:date=Dec 26 2008, 07:49 PM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Dec 26 2008, 07:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=7034:date=Dec 26 2008, 06:31 PM:name=CFOrfan)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CFOrfan @ Dec 26 2008, 06:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I really like Marshall, I do, but he has never pitched more than 125 innings in his pro career. I don't want to trust him unless we have a backup plan, which we don't. Keep Marquis.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yep. Pretty much it's Marquis or Peavy.
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Or someone like Randy Johnson (which doesn't make a ton of sense to me).
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He signed with the Giants today.
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8992702...with-the-Giants
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That was an hour or two after my post. Just sayin'.
The Ditching Marquis Thread - Clapp - 12-26-2008
<!--quoteo(post=7044:date=Dec 26 2008, 09:16 PM:name=rok)-->QUOTE (rok @ Dec 26 2008, 09:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=7042:date=Dec 26 2008, 08:57 PM:name=Captain)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Captain @ Dec 26 2008, 08:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=7039:date=Dec 26 2008, 07:29 PM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Dec 26 2008, 07:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=7036:date=Dec 26 2008, 07:49 PM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Dec 26 2008, 07:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=7034:date=Dec 26 2008, 06:31 PM:name=CFOrfan)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CFOrfan @ Dec 26 2008, 06:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I really like Marshall, I do, but he has never pitched more than 125 innings in his pro career. I don't want to trust him unless we have a backup plan, which we don't. Keep Marquis.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yep. Pretty much it's Marquis or Peavy.
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Or someone like Randy Johnson (which doesn't make a ton of sense to me).
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He signed with the Giants today.
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8992702...with-the-Giants
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I was really hoping that he'd sign somewhere in the AL instead. I know we don't face the Giants much, but his 1-2 starts against us are guaranteed losses.
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And it's not like facing Lincecum and Cain is better. Man, if they could get any, and I mean any offense, they could be very good. They'd at least be a threat in that division.
The Ditching Marquis Thread - rok - 12-27-2008
<!--quoteo(post=7047:date=Dec 26 2008, 09:49 PM:name=Clapp)-->QUOTE (Clapp @ Dec 26 2008, 09:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=7044:date=Dec 26 2008, 09:16 PM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Dec 26 2008, 09:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=7042:date=Dec 26 2008, 08:57 PM:name=Captain)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Captain @ Dec 26 2008, 08:57 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=7039:date=Dec 26 2008, 07:29 PM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Dec 26 2008, 07:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=7036:date=Dec 26 2008, 07:49 PM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Dec 26 2008, 07:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=7034:date=Dec 26 2008, 06:31 PM:name=CFOrfan)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (CFOrfan @ Dec 26 2008, 06:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I really like Marshall, I do, but he has never pitched more than 125 innings in his pro career. I don't want to trust him unless we have a backup plan, which we don't. Keep Marquis.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yep. Pretty much it's Marquis or Peavy.
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Or someone like Randy Johnson (which doesn't make a ton of sense to me).
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He signed with the Giants today.
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/8992702...with-the-Giants
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I was really hoping that he'd sign somewhere in the AL instead. I know we don't face the Giants much, but his 1-2 starts against us are guaranteed losses.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
And it's not like facing Lincecum and Cain is better. Man, if they could get any, and I mean any offense, they could be very good. They'd at least be a threat in that division.
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Imagine if they got Manny. I think they'd be the favorites in the West, but that's not saying much.