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2009 FA outfielders - Butcher - 09-18-2009
Of the four choices, Hendry clearly picked the worst one. Hindsight is 20/20, though...
In descending order of OPS (as of 9/18):
1. Adam Dunn .280/.410/.558/.968, 37 HR 99 RBI
2. Raul Ibanez .280/.350/.566/.916, 31 HR 86 RBI
3. Bobby Abreu .300/.398/.436/.834, 13 HR 96 RBI
4. Uncle Milty .257/.378/.397/.775, 12 HR 40 RBI
That's Cub luck for you. Dunn OPS'd almost 200 points higher than Bradley. Ibanez almost 150 points higher. And all three of the other options more than tripled Bradley's RBI total.
2009 FA outfielders - dk123 - 09-18-2009
<!--quoteo(post=63649:date=Sep 18 2009, 05:32 PM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Sep 18 2009, 05:32 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Of the four choices, Hendry clearly picked the worst one. Hindsight is 20/20, though...
In descending order of OPS (as of 9/18):
1. Adam Dunn .280/.410/.558/.968, 37 HR 99 RBI
2. Raul Ibanez .280/.350/.566/.916, 31 HR 86 RBI
3. Bobby Abreu .300/.398/.436/.834, 13 HR 96 RBI
4. Uncle Milty .257/.378/.397/.775, 12 HR 40 RBI
That's Cub luck for you. Dunn OPS'd almost 200 points higher than Bradley. Ibanez almost 150 points higher. And all three of the other options more than DOUBLED Bradley's RBI total.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Fixed....
2009 FA outfielders - veryzer - 09-18-2009
and as far as i know, none of the other three have been a distraction.
2009 FA outfielders - Ace - 09-18-2009
<!--quoteo(post=63653:date=Sep 18 2009, 07:34 PM:name=veryzer)-->QUOTE (veryzer @ Sep 18 2009, 07:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->and as far as i know, none of the other three have been a distraction.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
DING!
2009 FA outfielders - Scarey - 09-18-2009
<!--quoteo(post=63653:date=Sep 18 2009, 06:34 PM:name=veryzer)-->QUOTE (veryzer @ Sep 18 2009, 06:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->and as far as i know, none of the other three have been a distraction.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
They would have been a distraction playing <b>RIGHT FIELD</b> for the Cubs.
2009 FA outfielders - Butcher - 09-19-2009
<!--quoteo(post=63660:date=Sep 18 2009, 09:48 PM:name=Scarey)-->QUOTE (Scarey @ Sep 18 2009, 09:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=63653:date=Sep 18 2009, 06:34 PM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Sep 18 2009, 06:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->and as far as i know, none of the other three have been a distraction.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
They would have been a distraction playing <b>RIGHT FIELD</b> for the Cubs.
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Not really.
2009 FA outfielders - offcolorpoetry - 09-20-2009
Ibanez will be a free agent? As long as his arm is strong enough to play right field, I wouldn't be opposed to signing him. I wanted him or Milton during the offseason, and the Phillies swooped in and took him early on.
2009 FA outfielders - Ace - 09-20-2009
<!--quoteo(post=63746:date=Sep 20 2009, 07:30 PM:name=Gracie)-->QUOTE (Gracie @ Sep 20 2009, 07:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Ibanez will be a free agent? As long as his arm is strong enough to play right field, I wouldn't be opposed to signing him. I wanted him or Milton during the offseason, and the Phillies swooped in and took him early on.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
This is 2009.
2009 FA outfielders - offcolorpoetry - 09-20-2009
<!--quoteo(post=63750:date=Sep 20 2009, 06:40 PM:name=Ace)-->QUOTE (Ace @ Sep 20 2009, 06:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=63746:date=Sep 20 2009, 07:30 PM:name=Gracie)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Gracie @ Sep 20 2009, 07:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Ibanez will be a free agent? As long as his arm is strong enough to play right field, I wouldn't be opposed to signing him. I wanted him or Milton during the offseason, and the Phillies swooped in and took him early on.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
This is 2009.
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Oh, okay. Reading comprehension has failed me. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/teh.gif[/img]
2009 FA outfielders - Ace - 09-20-2009
<!--quoteo(post=63751:date=Sep 20 2009, 07:50 PM:name=Gracie)-->QUOTE (Gracie @ Sep 20 2009, 07:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=63750:date=Sep 20 2009, 06:40 PM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Sep 20 2009, 06:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=63746:date=Sep 20 2009, 07:30 PM:name=Gracie)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Gracie @ Sep 20 2009, 07:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Ibanez will be a free agent? As long as his arm is strong enough to play right field, I wouldn't be opposed to signing him. I wanted him or Milton during the offseason, and the Phillies swooped in and took him early on.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
This is 2009.
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Oh, okay. Reading comprehension has failed me. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/teh.gif[/img]
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It happens to the best of us.
Except me.
2009 FA outfielders - veryzer - 09-20-2009
<!--quoteo(post=63660:date=Sep 18 2009, 09:48 PM:name=Scarey)-->QUOTE (Scarey @ Sep 18 2009, 09:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=63653:date=Sep 18 2009, 06:34 PM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Sep 18 2009, 06:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->and as far as i know, none of the other three have been a distraction.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
They would have been a distraction playing <b>RIGHT FIELD</b> for the Cubs.
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wrong.
2009 FA outfielders - BT - 09-20-2009
<!--quoteo(post=63760:date=Sep 20 2009, 07:47 PM:name=veryzer)-->QUOTE (veryzer @ Sep 20 2009, 07:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=63660:date=Sep 18 2009, 09:48 PM:name=Scarey)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Scarey @ Sep 18 2009, 09:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=63653:date=Sep 18 2009, 06:34 PM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Sep 18 2009, 06:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->and as far as i know, none of the other three have been a distraction.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
They would have been a distraction playing <b>RIGHT FIELD</b> for the Cubs.
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wrong.
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It's possible that Abreu could have played right, but Ibanez would have been a train wreck, especially by the end of his contract, if we had him as an everyday right fielder.
Dunn, on the other hand, if he had worked very very very very hard on his defense, might have risen to level of train wreck, if we were very very lucky.
And all of these guy would have to play right, as Soriano wouldn't be any better.
2009 FA outfielders - Butcher - 09-20-2009
<!--quoteo(post=63778:date=Sep 20 2009, 09:37 PM:name=BT)-->QUOTE (BT @ Sep 20 2009, 09:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=63760:date=Sep 20 2009, 07:47 PM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Sep 20 2009, 07:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=63660:date=Sep 18 2009, 09:48 PM:name=Scarey)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Scarey @ Sep 18 2009, 09:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=63653:date=Sep 18 2009, 06:34 PM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Sep 18 2009, 06:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->and as far as i know, none of the other three have been a distraction.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
They would have been a distraction playing <b>RIGHT FIELD</b> for the Cubs.
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wrong.
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It's possible that Abreu could have played right, but Ibanez would have been a train wreck, especially by the end of his contract, if we had him as an everyday right fielder.
Dunn, on the other hand, if he had worked very very very very hard on his defense, might have risen to level of train wreck, if we were very very lucky.
And all of these guy would have to play right, as Soriano wouldn't be any better.
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Meh. Look at the difference in offensive production. It would be worth the 10-15 errors. Plus, if we're going to talk "train wreck..."
2009 FA outfielders - BT - 09-20-2009
<!--quoteo(post=63790:date=Sep 20 2009, 10:08 PM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Sep 20 2009, 10:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=63778:date=Sep 20 2009, 09:37 PM:name=BT)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BT @ Sep 20 2009, 09:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=63760:date=Sep 20 2009, 07:47 PM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Sep 20 2009, 07:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=63660:date=Sep 18 2009, 09:48 PM:name=Scarey)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Scarey @ Sep 18 2009, 09:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=63653:date=Sep 18 2009, 06:34 PM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Sep 18 2009, 06:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->and as far as i know, none of the other three have been a distraction.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
They would have been a distraction playing <b>RIGHT FIELD</b> for the Cubs.
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wrong.
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It's possible that Abreu could have played right, but Ibanez would have been a train wreck, especially by the end of his contract, if we had him as an everyday right fielder.
Dunn, on the other hand, if he had worked very very very very hard on his defense, might have risen to level of train wreck, if we were very very lucky.
And all of these guy would have to play right, as Soriano wouldn't be any better.
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Meh. Look at the difference in offensive production. It would be worth the 10-15 errors. Plus, if we're going to talk "train wreck..."
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I'm just saying that with the exception of Abreu, it would have been pretty impractical to sign any of these guys to play RF. Ibanez was an old, bad left fielder, and Dunn was a complete butcher.
Yes, Bradley was train wreck. But not in the (exact) way we thought he would be. We thought he would be injured all year. We thought he'd be a pain in the ass who occasionally sought out fights with announcers. Instead, he has been marginally healthy, and completely psychotic.
2009 FA outfielders - Butcher - 09-20-2009
<!--quoteo(post=63810:date=Sep 20 2009, 10:46 PM:name=BT)-->QUOTE (BT @ Sep 20 2009, 10:46 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=63790:date=Sep 20 2009, 10:08 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Sep 20 2009, 10:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=63778:date=Sep 20 2009, 09:37 PM:name=BT)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BT @ Sep 20 2009, 09:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=63760:date=Sep 20 2009, 07:47 PM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Sep 20 2009, 07:47 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=63660:date=Sep 18 2009, 09:48 PM:name=Scarey)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Scarey @ Sep 18 2009, 09:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=63653:date=Sep 18 2009, 06:34 PM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Sep 18 2009, 06:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->and as far as i know, none of the other three have been a distraction.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
They would have been a distraction playing <b>RIGHT FIELD</b> for the Cubs.
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wrong.
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It's possible that Abreu could have played right, but Ibanez would have been a train wreck, especially by the end of his contract, if we had him as an everyday right fielder.
Dunn, on the other hand, if he had worked very very very very hard on his defense, might have risen to level of train wreck, if we were very very lucky.
And all of these guy would have to play right, as Soriano wouldn't be any better.
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Meh. Look at the difference in offensive production. It would be worth the 10-15 errors. Plus, if we're going to talk "train wreck..."
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I'm just saying that with the exception of Abreu, it would have been pretty impractical to sign any of these guys to play RF. Ibanez was an old, bad left fielder, and Dunn was a complete butcher.
Yes, Bradley was train wreck. But not in the (exact) way we thought he would be. We thought he would be injured all year. We thought he'd be a pain in the ass who occasionally sought out fights with announcers. Instead, he has been marginally healthy, and completely psychotic.
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And this is why I subtitled this thread, "Hindsight."