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All-Time [insert trait here] lineup - bz - 07-18-2010

I was thinking about how awesome Vlad is despite being a completely free swinger and going after nearly any pitch thrown at him. So my next thought: best all time free-swingers lineup. I don't know <i>that</i> much about specific players' styles like you all might so I need your help. Other lineup ideas could be "Most Patience" or "Best Three True Outcomes" (that one specifically looks interesting.)

1 Juan Pierre - OF
2 Ichiro Suzuki - OF
3 Vlad - DH
4 Sammy Sosa - OF
5 Alfonso Soriano - 2nd
6 Nomar Garciaparra - SS
7 ?
8 ?
9 Bengie Molina - C

That's the best I can come up with so far. It would be a fun team to watch.


All-Time [insert trait here] lineup - Ace - 07-18-2010

<!--quoteo(post=106032:date=Jul 18 2010, 01:19 PM:name=bz)-->QUOTE (bz @ Jul 18 2010, 01:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I was thinking about how awesome Vlad is despite being a completely free swinger and going after nearly any pitch thrown at him. So my next thought: best all time free-swingers lineup. I don't know <i>that</i> much about specific players' styles like you all might so I need your help. Other lineup ideas could be "Most Patience" or "Best Three True Outcomes" (that one specifically looks interesting.)

1 Juan Pierre - OF
2 Ichiro Suzuki - OF
3 Vlad - DH
4 Sammy Sosa - OF
5 Alfonso Soriano - 2nd
6 Nomar Garciaparra - SS
7 ?
8 ?
9 Bengie Molina - C

That's the best I can come up with so far. It would be a fun team to watch.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->

You gotta have Randall Simon in there at 1B.


All-Time [insert trait here] lineup - kbwsb - 07-18-2010

Manny Sanguillen would be the catcher. He used to regularly smack hits by swinging at balls over his head, like you do in whiffleball.
And yeah, Simon was a classic.

Kung Fu Panda is definitely the 3rd baseman. That guy swings at <i>everything,</i>
especially if it's out of the strike zone. (shockingly, NL pitchers have caught on to this, and his stats are WAY down from last year).
Jeff Francouer would make the bench.


All-Time [insert trait here] lineup - Brock - 07-18-2010

I don't think Sosa really belongs.


All-Time [insert trait here] lineup - kbwsb - 07-18-2010

<!--quoteo(post=106044:date=Jul 18 2010, 01:38 PM:name=Brock)-->QUOTE (Brock @ Jul 18 2010, 01:38 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I don't think Sosa really belongs.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Even in '98 when he won the MVP, he was still kind of a hacker, IIRC.
He gets credit for refining his approach; steroids or not, his 2001 season was one of the greatest offensive years in baseball history, and by then, he was definitely willing to take a walk.


All-Time [insert trait here] lineup - veryzer - 07-18-2010

Yogi Berra is famous for being a free swinger.


All-Time [insert trait here] lineup - rok - 07-18-2010

Most sluggers have inflated walk totals when you factor in IBB and ABs where they are pitched around and walked (pretty much an IBB but not recorded that way), and that explains why Sammy had such high OBPs in his elite years. He was still a free swinger even during those seasons.


All-Time [insert trait here] lineup - 1060Ivy - 07-18-2010

You've have a number of Dominicans already and I would expect even more. As the saying goes, you don't walk off the island.

Recall a story about how Vlad and his brothers used to play a simple game where one player would attempt to pitch a ball past the opposing player who used a stick to keep the ball from getting past him and hitting a wall behind him. Vlad claims that this childhood game honed his ability to hit pitches from strange angles including balls in the dirt.


All-Time [insert trait here] lineup - VanSlawAndCottoCheese - 07-18-2010

If you're talking about HOF free-swingers, the conversation starts with Clemente. And Cepeda too.


All-Time [insert trait here] lineup - kbwsb - 07-18-2010

<!--quoteo(post=106054:date=Jul 18 2010, 02:37 PM:name=rok)-->QUOTE (rok @ Jul 18 2010, 02:37 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Most sluggers have inflated walk totals when you factor in IBB and ABs where they are pitched around and walked (pretty much an IBB but not recorded that way), and that explains why Sammy had such high OBPs in his elite years. He was still a free swinger even during those seasons.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
That's true.
In 2001, Sammy actually led the league in intentional walks. Considering that was the year Bonds hit 73 homers, that was hard to do.


All-Time [insert trait here] lineup - Rappster - 07-18-2010

Willie Montanez at 1B...


All-Time [insert trait here] lineup - bz - 07-18-2010

Good call on Cepeda and Clemente. Those are the types of players that I would have no clue to as to their exact style of batting.


All-Time [insert trait here] lineup - bz - 07-18-2010

OF Ichiro Suzuki
SS Nomar Garciaparra
DH Vladimir Guerrero
OF Sammy Sosa
OF Roberto Clemente
2nd Alfonso Soriano
3rd Pablo Sandoval
C Yogi Berra
1st Willie Montanez

Bench: Cepeda, Manny Sanguillen, Randall Simon, Christian Guzman maybe?

Anyway, that would be such a fun team to watch. I like how there is one Caucasian on the whole team.


All-Time [insert trait here] lineup - Rappster - 07-18-2010

Not for nothin', but Shawon Dunston was a serious free swinger at SS...


All-Time [insert trait here] lineup - Butcher - 07-18-2010

Here are some Three True Outcomes players. It's going to be hard to field an entire team of these kind of guys because I think they are usually OFers or DHs. But here are some names to being with.

- Rob Deer, of course
- Jim Thome
- Adam Dunn
- Richie Sexon
- Bo Jackson
- Russell Branyan
- Mark McGwire

There are probably some obvious ones I'm missing. Reggie Jackson, maybe?