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Cards apparently get Holliday - BT - 07-30-2009
<!--quoteo(post=53047:date=Jul 29 2009, 09:51 AM:name=veryzer)-->QUOTE (veryzer @ Jul 29 2009, 09:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=53041:date=Jul 29 2009, 09:35 AM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Jul 29 2009, 09:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=53038:date=Jul 29 2009, 09:25 AM:name=Coldneck)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Coldneck @ Jul 29 2009, 09:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->DeRosa seems to hit a HR every game for them.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
So much for him "aging" and being ready to fall off a cliff after 3 consecutive career years. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif[/img]
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right. i never understood that argument.
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the argument was, and is, a guy who has a career year at 32 is unlikely to keep it up, let alone get better. It's possible, and DeRosa seems to be bucking the trend, but in most cases a guy will get worse after that.
to put it another way, the cubs have invested in both trade and free agent $$ in tons of guys who put their best season together after they turn 30. It has rarely worked out for them. Unless you were a big fan of the Blauser signing.
Cards apparently get Holliday - Brock - 07-30-2009
I bet DeRosa would have gotten that bunt down.
Cards apparently get Holliday - vegascub - 07-30-2009
<!--quoteo(post=53507:date=Jul 29 2009, 10:10 PM:name=Clapp)-->QUOTE (Clapp @ Jul 29 2009, 10:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Torre is a dumbass. Pitching to Pujols with runners on 1st and 2nd, 2 outs, when a single wins the game. Just idiotic. Lou's 9th inning was probably better than Torre's managing tonight. Should be embarrassed with himself.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
They never showed the replay, but it almost looked like Kemp started in on that ball. It was a shot, but I think Kemp fucked that up.
Cards apparently get Holliday - Clapp - 07-30-2009
<!--quoteo(post=53511:date=Jul 29 2009, 11:13 PM:name=vegascub)-->QUOTE (vegascub @ Jul 29 2009, 11:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=53507:date=Jul 29 2009, 10:10 PM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Jul 29 2009, 10:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Torre is a dumbass. Pitching to Pujols with runners on 1st and 2nd, 2 outs, when a single wins the game. Just idiotic. Lou's 9th inning was probably better than Torre's managing tonight. Should be embarrassed with himself.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
They never showed the replay, but it almost looked like Kemp started in on that ball. It was a shot, but I think Kemp fucked that up.
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It was smoked and there's not a tougher play in baseball than being in center field for that. He did start in, but even if he sprints back, I highly doubt he catches that ball which was also tailing to right-center. All of the blame should be on Torre for pitching to the best player in the world there where a hit wins it regardless. Take your chances against a guy hitting 30-40 points lower next.
Cards apparently get Holliday - vegascub - 07-30-2009
<!--quoteo(post=53512:date=Jul 29 2009, 10:16 PM:name=Clapp)-->QUOTE (Clapp @ Jul 29 2009, 10:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=53511:date=Jul 29 2009, 11:13 PM:name=vegascub)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vegascub @ Jul 29 2009, 11:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=53507:date=Jul 29 2009, 10:10 PM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Jul 29 2009, 10:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Torre is a dumbass. Pitching to Pujols with runners on 1st and 2nd, 2 outs, when a single wins the game. Just idiotic. Lou's 9th inning was probably better than Torre's managing tonight. Should be embarrassed with himself.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
They never showed the replay, but it almost looked like Kemp started in on that ball. It was a shot, but I think Kemp fucked that up.
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It was smoked and there's not a tougher play in baseball than being in center field for that. He did start in, but even if he sprints back, I highly doubt he catches that ball which was also tailing to right-center. All of the blame should be on Torre for pitching to the best player in the world there where a hit wins it regardless. Take your chances against a guy hitting 30-40 points lower next.
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Oh I agree I wouldn't have pitched to Albert. Just saying Kemp took himself out of a possible play by starting in on it.
Cards apparently get Holliday - Clapp - 07-30-2009
<!--quoteo(post=53513:date=Jul 29 2009, 11:17 PM:name=vegascub)-->QUOTE (vegascub @ Jul 29 2009, 11:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=53512:date=Jul 29 2009, 10:16 PM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Jul 29 2009, 10:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=53511:date=Jul 29 2009, 11:13 PM:name=vegascub)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vegascub @ Jul 29 2009, 11:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=53507:date=Jul 29 2009, 10:10 PM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Jul 29 2009, 10:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Torre is a dumbass. Pitching to Pujols with runners on 1st and 2nd, 2 outs, when a single wins the game. Just idiotic. Lou's 9th inning was probably better than Torre's managing tonight. Should be embarrassed with himself.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
They never showed the replay, but it almost looked like Kemp started in on that ball. It was a shot, but I think Kemp fucked that up.
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It was smoked and there's not a tougher play in baseball than being in center field for that. He did start in, but even if he sprints back, I highly doubt he catches that ball which was also tailing to right-center. All of the blame should be on Torre for pitching to the best player in the world there where a hit wins it regardless. Take your chances against a guy hitting 30-40 points lower next.
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Oh I agree I wouldn't have pitched to Albert. Just saying Kemp took himself out of a possible play by starting in on it.
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Yeah for sure.
Cards apparently get Holliday - Destined - 07-30-2009
<!--quoteo(post=53508:date=Jul 29 2009, 10:10 PM:name=Beams)-->QUOTE (Beams @ Jul 29 2009, 10:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->jeez...finally
I have work early in the morn...goodnight.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Thanks for showing up just to shove it in our face. Great class from a world class organization. Goodnight, you better run, I'm sure Pujols's cock needs some more attention.
Cards apparently get Holliday - PcB - 07-30-2009
<!--quoteo(post=53517:date=Jul 30 2009, 12:24 AM:name=Destined)-->QUOTE (Destined @ Jul 30 2009, 12:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=53508:date=Jul 29 2009, 10:10 PM:name=Beams)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Beams @ Jul 29 2009, 10:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->jeez...finally
I have work early in the morn...goodnight.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Thanks for showing up just to shove it in our face. Great class from a world class organization. Goodnight, you better run, I'm sure Pujols's cock needs some more attention.
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Hey didn't rub anything in anyone's face. If he said something douchey then that's fine, but don't be a dick for no reason.
Cards apparently get Holliday - MrSheps - 07-30-2009
<!--quoteo(post=53514:date=Jul 29 2009, 10:20 PM:name=Clapp)-->QUOTE (Clapp @ Jul 29 2009, 10:20 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=53513:date=Jul 29 2009, 11:17 PM:name=vegascub)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vegascub @ Jul 29 2009, 11:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=53512:date=Jul 29 2009, 10:16 PM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Jul 29 2009, 10:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=53511:date=Jul 29 2009, 11:13 PM:name=vegascub)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (vegascub @ Jul 29 2009, 11:13 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=53507:date=Jul 29 2009, 10:10 PM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Jul 29 2009, 10:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Torre is a dumbass. Pitching to Pujols with runners on 1st and 2nd, 2 outs, when a single wins the game. Just idiotic. Lou's 9th inning was probably better than Torre's managing tonight. Should be embarrassed with himself.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
They never showed the replay, but it almost looked like Kemp started in on that ball. It was a shot, but I think Kemp fucked that up.
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It was smoked and there's not a tougher play in baseball than being in center field for that. He did start in, but even if he sprints back, I highly doubt he catches that ball which was also tailing to right-center. All of the blame should be on Torre for pitching to the best player in the world there where a hit wins it regardless. Take your chances against a guy hitting 30-40 points lower next.
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Oh I agree I wouldn't have pitched to Albert. Just saying Kemp took himself out of a possible play by starting in on it.
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Yeah for sure.
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Agreed, I was hoping someone else noticed that. You think they'd be playing more of a deep, no doubles sort of thing with Albert up and a runner on 2nd, if so he may actually catch the ball. Only because I'd think it's more likely he hits one deep then dumps one into the shallow outfield, it's Albert Pujoles.
Also, Pujoles had 7 at bats, he shouldn't be pitched to that much period.
Cards apparently get Holliday - Destined - 07-30-2009
<!--quoteo(post=53528:date=Jul 29 2009, 11:49 PM:name=PcB)-->QUOTE (PcB @ Jul 29 2009, 11:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=53517:date=Jul 30 2009, 12:24 AM:name=Destined)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Destined @ Jul 30 2009, 12:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=53508:date=Jul 29 2009, 10:10 PM:name=Beams)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Beams @ Jul 29 2009, 10:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->jeez...finally
I have work early in the morn...goodnight.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Thanks for showing up just to shove it in our face. Great class from a world class organization. Goodnight, you better run, I'm sure Pujols's cock needs some more attention.
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Hey didn't rub anything in anyone's face. If he said something douchey then that's fine, but don't be a dick for no reason.
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Oops.
Cards apparently get Holliday - veryzer - 07-30-2009
<!--quoteo(post=53509:date=Jul 30 2009, 12:11 AM:name=BT)-->QUOTE (BT @ Jul 30 2009, 12:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=53047:date=Jul 29 2009, 09:51 AM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Jul 29 2009, 09:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=53041:date=Jul 29 2009, 09:35 AM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Jul 29 2009, 09:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=53038:date=Jul 29 2009, 09:25 AM:name=Coldneck)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Coldneck @ Jul 29 2009, 09:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->DeRosa seems to hit a HR every game for them.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
So much for him "aging" and being ready to fall off a cliff after 3 consecutive career years. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif[/img]
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right. i never understood that argument.
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the argument was, and is, a guy who has a career year at 32 is unlikely to keep it up, let alone get better. It's possible, and DeRosa seems to be bucking the trend, but in most cases a guy will get worse after that.
to put it another way, the cubs have invested in both trade and free agent $$ in tons of guys who put their best season together after they turn 30. It has rarely worked out for them. Unless you were a big fan of the Blauser signing.
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he had three career years in a row. i thought he might regress a little this year, but not significantly. i figured .280/15/70. looks like i was wrong.
Cards apparently get Holliday - Butcher - 07-30-2009
<!--quoteo(post=53541:date=Jul 30 2009, 06:42 AM:name=veryzer)-->QUOTE (veryzer @ Jul 30 2009, 06:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=53509:date=Jul 30 2009, 12:11 AM:name=BT)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BT @ Jul 30 2009, 12:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=53047:date=Jul 29 2009, 09:51 AM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Jul 29 2009, 09:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=53041:date=Jul 29 2009, 09:35 AM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Jul 29 2009, 09:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=53038:date=Jul 29 2009, 09:25 AM:name=Coldneck)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Coldneck @ Jul 29 2009, 09:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->DeRosa seems to hit a HR every game for them.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
So much for him "aging" and being ready to fall off a cliff after 3 consecutive career years. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif[/img]
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right. i never understood that argument.
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the argument was, and is, a guy who has a career year at 32 is unlikely to keep it up, let alone get better. It's possible, and DeRosa seems to be bucking the trend, but in most cases a guy will get worse after that.
to put it another way, the cubs have invested in both trade and free agent $$ in tons of guys who put their best season together after they turn 30. It has rarely worked out for them. Unless you were a big fan of the Blauser signing.
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he had three career years in a row. i thought he might regress a little this year, but not significantly. i figured .280/15/70. looks like i was wrong.
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DeRosa wasn't going to require a big investment. $5.5M this season. And I think it's reasonable to expect a slight regression, but why should he fall off a cliff? Fuck, I wish we still had him instead of Fontenot.
Cards apparently get Holliday - Butcher - 07-30-2009
I'm still having trouble with the Dodgers blowing two saves last night. Weren't they something like 49-0 when leading after 8 innings coming into last night's game?
And like someone else said, you know they're going to start steamrolling teams again after this series.
Cards apparently get Holliday - rok - 07-30-2009
<!--quoteo(post=53541:date=Jul 30 2009, 06:42 AM:name=veryzer)-->QUOTE (veryzer @ Jul 30 2009, 06:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=53509:date=Jul 30 2009, 12:11 AM:name=BT)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BT @ Jul 30 2009, 12:11 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=53047:date=Jul 29 2009, 09:51 AM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ Jul 29 2009, 09:51 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=53041:date=Jul 29 2009, 09:35 AM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Jul 29 2009, 09:35 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=53038:date=Jul 29 2009, 09:25 AM:name=Coldneck)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Coldneck @ Jul 29 2009, 09:25 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->DeRosa seems to hit a HR every game for them.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
So much for him "aging" and being ready to fall off a cliff after 3 consecutive career years. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/rolleyes.gif[/img]
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right. i never understood that argument.
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the argument was, and is, a guy who has a career year at 32 is unlikely to keep it up, let alone get better. It's possible, and DeRosa seems to be bucking the trend, but in most cases a guy will get worse after that.
to put it another way, the cubs have invested in both trade and free agent $$ in tons of guys who put their best season together after they turn 30. It has rarely worked out for them. Unless you were a big fan of the Blauser signing.
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he had three career years in a row. i thought he might regress a little this year, but not significantly. i figured .280/15/70. looks like i was wrong.
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Yep, same here. It wasn't like he was only good for one season and had an old man's body.
Cards apparently get Holliday - Clapp - 07-30-2009
Fucking Holliday. Came in hitting .500 and is 2 for 2 with both RBI, 1 of which just came on a homer.