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Joe Beimel for LOOGY? - Clapp - 04-21-2009
<!--quoteo(post=31910:date=Apr 21 2009, 12:49 PM:name=twitterwoods)-->QUOTE (twitterwoods @ Apr 21 2009, 12:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Meanwhile - the guy we traded Cotts for (Aardsma) is doing pretty well in Seattle. I understand, different time different place, blah blah. Just an irrelevant tidbit.
http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/players/7307
5.1 IP - 5 K, 2 Saves, 1 hit, 4 BB.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Cotts was also much better than him the last 2 seasons though.
Joe Beimel for LOOGY? - rok - 04-22-2009
So, what's the ETA on Cotts being DFA'd?
Joe Beimel for LOOGY? - AlexV - 04-22-2009
<!--quoteo(post=32204:date=Apr 21 2009, 10:03 PM:name=rok)-->QUOTE (rok @ Apr 21 2009, 10:03 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->So, what's the ETA on Cotts being DFA'd?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Not too long.
Joe Beimel for LOOGY? - kbwsb - 04-22-2009
It's hard to believe that Cotts walked that guy tonight. He certainly knew that a BB would cause Lou's head to explode; it would also likely lead to a demotion to the bush leagues.
Is he not all there mentally?
Joe Beimel for LOOGY? - Clapp - 04-22-2009
<!--quoteo(post=32206:date=Apr 21 2009, 10:41 PM:name=KBwsb)-->QUOTE (KBwsb @ Apr 21 2009, 10:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->It's hard to believe that Cotts walked that guy tonight. He certainly knew that a BB would cause Lou's head to explode; it would also likely lead to a demotion to the bush leagues.
Is he not all there mentally?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'd think he's losing his confidence a bit. He looked like he was aiming the ball tonight instead of just throwing, as it's clearly in his head. Last year he walked 13 in 35.2 innings pitched. He's walked 5 in 3 innings already this year.
Joe Beimel for LOOGY? - sleepyhead - 04-22-2009
<!--quoteo(post=32208:date=Apr 22 2009, 12:13 AM:name=Clapp)-->QUOTE (Clapp @ Apr 22 2009, 12:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32206:date=Apr 21 2009, 10:41 PM:name=KBwsb)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KBwsb @ Apr 21 2009, 10:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->It's hard to believe that Cotts walked that guy tonight. He certainly knew that a BB would cause Lou's head to explode; it would also likely lead to a demotion to the bush leagues.
Is he not all there mentally?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'd think he's losing his confidence a bit. He looked like he was aiming the ball tonight instead of just throwing, as it's clearly in his head. Last year he walked 13 in 35.2 innings pitched. He's walked 5 in 3 innings already this year.
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Losing his confidence a bit? He's borderline Ankieling on us.
Bottom line is even at his best as a Cub, he was a mediocre reliever. At his worst, he's a complete liability. I don't care why or what it is, but I don't want him back on the field.
Joe Beimel for LOOGY? - veryzer - 04-22-2009
the jeff samardjzia era is about to begin. i'm looking forward to it.
Joe Beimel for LOOGY? - rok - 04-22-2009
<!--quoteo(post=32228:date=Apr 22 2009, 07:32 AM:name=sleepyhead)-->QUOTE (sleepyhead @ Apr 22 2009, 07:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32208:date=Apr 22 2009, 12:13 AM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Apr 22 2009, 12:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32206:date=Apr 21 2009, 10:41 PM:name=KBwsb)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KBwsb @ Apr 21 2009, 10:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->It's hard to believe that Cotts walked that guy tonight. He certainly knew that a BB would cause Lou's head to explode; it would also likely lead to a demotion to the bush leagues.
Is he not all there mentally?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'd think he's losing his confidence a bit. He looked like he was aiming the ball tonight instead of just throwing, as it's clearly in his head. Last year he walked 13 in 35.2 innings pitched. He's walked 5 in 3 innings already this year.
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Losing his confidence a bit? He's borderline Ankieling on us.
Bottom line is even at his best as a Cub, he was a mediocre reliever. At his worst, he's a complete liability. I don't care why or what it is, but I don't want him back on the field.
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He's been ass since 2006. I don't think people are looking at his stats closely enough. There's a reason why the Sox bailed on him even after he was a huge part of their WS. He's an uncoachable twit. Judging from Lou's facial expressions and the chatter in the dugout after Cotts was removed, I'd be shocked if we ever see him again.
Joe Beimel for LOOGY? - sleepyhead - 04-22-2009
<!--quoteo(post=32246:date=Apr 22 2009, 09:43 AM:name=rok)-->QUOTE (rok @ Apr 22 2009, 09:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32228:date=Apr 22 2009, 07:32 AM:name=sleepyhead)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (sleepyhead @ Apr 22 2009, 07:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32208:date=Apr 22 2009, 12:13 AM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Apr 22 2009, 12:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32206:date=Apr 21 2009, 10:41 PM:name=KBwsb)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KBwsb @ Apr 21 2009, 10:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->It's hard to believe that Cotts walked that guy tonight. He certainly knew that a BB would cause Lou's head to explode; it would also likely lead to a demotion to the bush leagues.
Is he not all there mentally?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'd think he's losing his confidence a bit. He looked like he was aiming the ball tonight instead of just throwing, as it's clearly in his head. Last year he walked 13 in 35.2 innings pitched. He's walked 5 in 3 innings already this year.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Losing his confidence a bit? He's borderline Ankieling on us.
Bottom line is even at his best as a Cub, he was a mediocre reliever. At his worst, he's a complete liability. I don't care why or what it is, but I don't want him back on the field.
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He's been ass since 2006. I don't think people are looking at his stats closely enough. There's a reason why the Sox bailed on him even after he was a huge part of their WS. He's an uncoachable twit. Judging from Lou's facial expressions and the chatter in the dugout after Cotts was removed, I'd be shocked if we ever see him again.
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I'm with you. His numbers do not reflect how bad he is. Hell his ERA right now is in the low 3's, but that really doesn't mean he's good.
Joe Beimel for LOOGY? - Coach - 04-22-2009
Cotts' WHIP is 3.33
Joe Beimel for LOOGY? - rok - 04-22-2009
<!--quoteo(post=32257:date=Apr 22 2009, 10:43 AM:name=Coach)-->QUOTE (Coach @ Apr 22 2009, 10:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Cotts' WHIP is 3.33<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeah and the league is hitting .385 against him (lefties hitting .500), which is sort of shocking considering that he's walking most hitters.
Joe Beimel for LOOGY? - Clapp - 04-22-2009
<!--quoteo(post=32253:date=Apr 22 2009, 09:28 AM:name=sleepyhead)-->QUOTE (sleepyhead @ Apr 22 2009, 09:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32246:date=Apr 22 2009, 09:43 AM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Apr 22 2009, 09:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32228:date=Apr 22 2009, 07:32 AM:name=sleepyhead)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (sleepyhead @ Apr 22 2009, 07:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32208:date=Apr 22 2009, 12:13 AM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Apr 22 2009, 12:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32206:date=Apr 21 2009, 10:41 PM:name=KBwsb)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KBwsb @ Apr 21 2009, 10:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->It's hard to believe that Cotts walked that guy tonight. He certainly knew that a BB would cause Lou's head to explode; it would also likely lead to a demotion to the bush leagues.
Is he not all there mentally?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'd think he's losing his confidence a bit. He looked like he was aiming the ball tonight instead of just throwing, as it's clearly in his head. Last year he walked 13 in 35.2 innings pitched. He's walked 5 in 3 innings already this year.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Losing his confidence a bit? He's borderline Ankieling on us.
Bottom line is even at his best as a Cub, he was a mediocre reliever. At his worst, he's a complete liability. I don't care why or what it is, but I don't want him back on the field.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
He's been ass since 2006. I don't think people are looking at his stats closely enough. There's a reason why the Sox bailed on him even after he was a huge part of their WS. He's an uncoachable twit. Judging from Lou's facial expressions and the chatter in the dugout after Cotts was removed, I'd be shocked if we ever see him again.
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I'm with you. His numbers do not reflect how bad he is. Hell his ERA right now is in the low 3's, but that really doesn't mean he's good.
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It's just like Wuertz. Wuertz would allow a couple guys on, then Marmol comes in and cleans up his mess so the ERA stays fine.
Joe Beimel for LOOGY? - sleepyhead - 04-22-2009
<!--quoteo(post=32291:date=Apr 22 2009, 01:31 PM:name=Clapp)-->QUOTE (Clapp @ Apr 22 2009, 01:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32253:date=Apr 22 2009, 09:28 AM:name=sleepyhead)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (sleepyhead @ Apr 22 2009, 09:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32246:date=Apr 22 2009, 09:43 AM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Apr 22 2009, 09:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32228:date=Apr 22 2009, 07:32 AM:name=sleepyhead)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (sleepyhead @ Apr 22 2009, 07:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32208:date=Apr 22 2009, 12:13 AM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Apr 22 2009, 12:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32206:date=Apr 21 2009, 10:41 PM:name=KBwsb)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KBwsb @ Apr 21 2009, 10:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->It's hard to believe that Cotts walked that guy tonight. He certainly knew that a BB would cause Lou's head to explode; it would also likely lead to a demotion to the bush leagues.
Is he not all there mentally?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'd think he's losing his confidence a bit. He looked like he was aiming the ball tonight instead of just throwing, as it's clearly in his head. Last year he walked 13 in 35.2 innings pitched. He's walked 5 in 3 innings already this year.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Losing his confidence a bit? He's borderline Ankieling on us.
Bottom line is even at his best as a Cub, he was a mediocre reliever. At his worst, he's a complete liability. I don't care why or what it is, but I don't want him back on the field.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
He's been ass since 2006. I don't think people are looking at his stats closely enough. There's a reason why the Sox bailed on him even after he was a huge part of their WS. He's an uncoachable twit. Judging from Lou's facial expressions and the chatter in the dugout after Cotts was removed, I'd be shocked if we ever see him again.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm with you. His numbers do not reflect how bad he is. Hell his ERA right now is in the low 3's, but that really doesn't mean he's good.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It's just like Wuertz. Wuertz would allow a couple guys on, then Marmol comes in and cleans up his mess so the ERA stays fine.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Completely, and where is he at now? [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/img]
Joe Beimel for LOOGY? - Andy - 04-22-2009
<!--quoteo(post=32308:date=Apr 22 2009, 02:52 PM:name=sleepyhead)-->QUOTE (sleepyhead @ Apr 22 2009, 02:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32291:date=Apr 22 2009, 01:31 PM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Apr 22 2009, 01:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32253:date=Apr 22 2009, 09:28 AM:name=sleepyhead)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (sleepyhead @ Apr 22 2009, 09:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32246:date=Apr 22 2009, 09:43 AM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Apr 22 2009, 09:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32228:date=Apr 22 2009, 07:32 AM:name=sleepyhead)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (sleepyhead @ Apr 22 2009, 07:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32208:date=Apr 22 2009, 12:13 AM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Apr 22 2009, 12:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32206:date=Apr 21 2009, 10:41 PM:name=KBwsb)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KBwsb @ Apr 21 2009, 10:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->It's hard to believe that Cotts walked that guy tonight. He certainly knew that a BB would cause Lou's head to explode; it would also likely lead to a demotion to the bush leagues.
Is he not all there mentally?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'd think he's losing his confidence a bit. He looked like he was aiming the ball tonight instead of just throwing, as it's clearly in his head. Last year he walked 13 in 35.2 innings pitched. He's walked 5 in 3 innings already this year.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Losing his confidence a bit? He's borderline Ankieling on us.
Bottom line is even at his best as a Cub, he was a mediocre reliever. At his worst, he's a complete liability. I don't care why or what it is, but I don't want him back on the field.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
He's been ass since 2006. I don't think people are looking at his stats closely enough. There's a reason why the Sox bailed on him even after he was a huge part of their WS. He's an uncoachable twit. Judging from Lou's facial expressions and the chatter in the dugout after Cotts was removed, I'd be shocked if we ever see him again.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm with you. His numbers do not reflect how bad he is. Hell his ERA right now is in the low 3's, but that really doesn't mean he's good.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It's just like Wuertz. Wuertz would allow a couple guys on, then Marmol comes in and cleans up his mess so the ERA stays fine.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Completely, and where is he at now? [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/img]
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It's early, but Wuertz has been in 7 games for 7.0 innings. He's given up 3 hits, 0 runs, 0 bb and has 9 k's. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blush.gif[/img]
Joe Beimel for LOOGY? - sleepyhead - 04-22-2009
<!--quoteo(post=32312:date=Apr 22 2009, 03:12 PM:name=Andy)-->QUOTE (Andy @ Apr 22 2009, 03:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32308:date=Apr 22 2009, 02:52 PM:name=sleepyhead)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (sleepyhead @ Apr 22 2009, 02:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32291:date=Apr 22 2009, 01:31 PM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Apr 22 2009, 01:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32253:date=Apr 22 2009, 09:28 AM:name=sleepyhead)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (sleepyhead @ Apr 22 2009, 09:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32246:date=Apr 22 2009, 09:43 AM:name=rok)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (rok @ Apr 22 2009, 09:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32228:date=Apr 22 2009, 07:32 AM:name=sleepyhead)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (sleepyhead @ Apr 22 2009, 07:32 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32208:date=Apr 22 2009, 12:13 AM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Apr 22 2009, 12:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=32206:date=Apr 21 2009, 10:41 PM:name=KBwsb)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KBwsb @ Apr 21 2009, 10:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->It's hard to believe that Cotts walked that guy tonight. He certainly knew that a BB would cause Lou's head to explode; it would also likely lead to a demotion to the bush leagues.
Is he not all there mentally?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'd think he's losing his confidence a bit. He looked like he was aiming the ball tonight instead of just throwing, as it's clearly in his head. Last year he walked 13 in 35.2 innings pitched. He's walked 5 in 3 innings already this year.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Losing his confidence a bit? He's borderline Ankieling on us.
Bottom line is even at his best as a Cub, he was a mediocre reliever. At his worst, he's a complete liability. I don't care why or what it is, but I don't want him back on the field.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
He's been ass since 2006. I don't think people are looking at his stats closely enough. There's a reason why the Sox bailed on him even after he was a huge part of their WS. He's an uncoachable twit. Judging from Lou's facial expressions and the chatter in the dugout after Cotts was removed, I'd be shocked if we ever see him again.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I'm with you. His numbers do not reflect how bad he is. Hell his ERA right now is in the low 3's, but that really doesn't mean he's good.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It's just like Wuertz. Wuertz would allow a couple guys on, then Marmol comes in and cleans up his mess so the ERA stays fine.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Completely, and where is he at now? [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/smile.gif[/img]
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It's early, but Wuertz has been in 7 games for 7.0 innings. He's given up 3 hits, 0 runs, 0 bb and has 9 k's. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/blush.gif[/img]
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He gave up 4 hits and 2 earned runs (as well as an inherited run) today in 2/3 of an inning