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soi keeper fantasy football - Ace - 08-25-2010
So... two keepers? and you give up the pick a round before the round where the guy was taken to keep the guy (unless it's the first round, in which case you give up a first rounder, and you can't keep your second rounder)?
Also, how do I find out who was on my team (Royale wif Cheese) at the end of the season (i.e., in case Coldneck was crafty and picked up someone that I want to keep)? Or is that un-possible?
soi keeper fantasy football - Fella - 08-25-2010
Its possible to see final rosters, I posted the link earlier in the thread, not sure if you could see them Ace, but anyone who was in the league should be able to. I can post the final roster for Royale Cheese.
soi keeper fantasy football - Fella - 08-25-2010
Here are the final rosters http://archive.fantasysports.yahoo.com/arc.../361182/rosters
and here is the final roster for Royale withCheese, in case you cant see it Ace
Kevin Boss (NYG - TE) 0 0 0 16 0 567 5 0 0 0 82
Donald Brown (Ind - RB) 0 0 0 281 3 169 0 0 0 0 57
Correll Buckhalter (Den - RB) 0 0 0 642 1 240 0 0 0 2 79
Donald Driver (GB - WR) 0 0 0 13 0 1061 6 0 0 1 135
Frank Gore (SF - RB) 0 0 0 1120 10 406 3 0 0 2 214
Greg Jennings (GB - WR) 0 0 0 0 0 1113 4 0 2 0 133
Donovan McNabb (Was - QB) 3553 22 10 140 2 1 0 0 2 3 267
Robert Meachem (NO - WR) 0 0 0 82 0 722 9 0 0 1 130
Zach Miller (Oak - TE) 0 0 0 0 0 805 3 0 0 0 91
Steve Smith (NYG - WR) 0 0 0 0 0 1220 7 0 0 0 158
Jason Snelling (Atl - RB) 0 0 0 613 4 259 1 0 0 1 103
DeAngelo Williams (Car - RB) 0 0 0 1117 7 252 0 0 1 3 166
Roy Williams (Dal - WR) 0 0 0 0 0 596 7 0 0 1 93
Lawrence Tynes (NYG - K) 0 10 11 5 1 0 2 2 1 0 45 128
Denver (Den - DEF) 306 39.0 0 17 13 2 1 143
Minnesota (Min - DEF) 288 48.0 1 11 13 1 1 132
soi keeper fantasy football - Fella - 08-25-2010
BTW your team took 2nd in the regular season Acey Pants, not a bad team at all, Steve Smith wasn't even drafted last year, I don't think, so you could keep him for a last round pick? Is that right? Plus Gore or Deangelo Williams as options.... better off than my team.
soi keeper fantasy football - BT - 08-25-2010
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I'm not sure it was ever finalized, but I think I suggested that anyone picked up during the season could be saved as a 6th rounder the next year. Obviously that's open to discussion, but it's tough getting the easy stuff out the way.
soi keeper fantasy football - liner - 08-25-2010
i think keeping an undrafted with at least a 6th is fine. i only remember 1 guy on my team at the moment but i'm still down for 3 keepers. if it goes the other way i won't bitch though
soi keeper fantasy football - Fella - 08-25-2010
Keeping an un-drafted with a 6th seems sorta brutal, when you could keep a 15th rounder with a 14. I'm not sure what most leagues do about that though. I wouldn't be keeping any un-drafteds so whatever works is fine. I prefer 2 keepers, especially in a 10 team league with only 16 roster spots. If everyone kept 3, you'd be looking at close to 20% of the league being keepers.
soi keeper fantasy football - cigar - 08-25-2010
Two keepers is fine. One of my keepers might possibly be someone I picked up off of the waiver wire but was drafted. So would I lose the a pick in the round before where he was drafted or a 6th since he was on the waiver wire? I am assuming the round from where he was drafted but want to make sure.
soi keeper fantasy football - Ace - 08-25-2010
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I gotta agree with Fella on both counts. 6th rounder seems steep for a guy who went undrafted - and who would cost a 15th if only he'd been taken with the very last pick.
The last round might be a bit cheap, though. Maybe something like the 10th round is a compromise?
soi keeper fantasy football - BT - 08-25-2010
<!--quoteo(post=112311:date=Aug 25 2010, 07:41 PM:name=Ace)-->QUOTE (Ace @ Aug 25 2010, 07:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=112294:date=Aug 25 2010, 06:00 PM:name=Fella)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Fella @ Aug 25 2010, 06:00 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Keeping an un-drafted with a 6th seems sorta brutal, when you could keep a 15th rounder with a 14. I'm not sure what most leagues do about that though. I wouldn't be keeping any un-drafteds so whatever works is fine. I prefer 2 keepers, especially in a 10 team league with only 16 roster spots. If everyone kept 3, you'd be looking at close to 20% of the league being keepers.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I gotta agree with Fella on both counts. 6th rounder seems steep for a guy who went undrafted - and who would cost a 15th if only he'd been taken with the very last pick.
The last round might be a bit cheap, though. Maybe something like the 10th round is a compromise?
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We experimented quite a bit with this in the keeper league I've been in for a while. Basically the 6th round was settled upon for a couple reasons. Any guy you pick up off of waivers was available in the 15th round, and no one took them. You should not not be rewarded to that extent for picking up a guy. On the other hand, you should get SOME credit for finding a good guy on the waiver wire, so after a lot of experimentation, we settled on the 6th. It's a mid round pick, so it's a compromise.
Obviously if you guys all want to change it, that's fine, but since getting 10 guys to respond, let alone agree, is difficult, I'm throwing this stuff out there because nearly every problem we are discussing is a problem that my league has dealt with already.
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->Two keepers is fine. One of my keepers might possibly be someone I picked up off of the waiver wire but was drafted. So would I lose the a pick in the round before where he was drafted or a 6th since he was on the waiver wire? I am assuming the round from where he was drafted but want to make sure.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
It would be the 6th round (or whatever we decide on that). Once a guy is cut (NOT traded), his draft position no longer matters. He becomes a free agent just like anyone else.
soi keeper fantasy football - liner - 08-25-2010
still down with a 6th rounder. every year there's a stud or two that goes undrafted and studs should cost something. i like Bt's explanation. reward an owner for finding him, but don't reward him too much when luck has a lot to do with it.
soi keeper fantasy football - liner - 08-25-2010
also, everyone who's in the league is on here sometimes. i say we take those who don't speak out either way when rules are being discussed are just considered to be cool with whatever's decided in this thread.
soi keeper fantasy football - bz - 08-26-2010
Can someone post my teams roster at the end of the season? Thanks.
soi keeper fantasy football - liner - 08-26-2010
<!--quoteo(post=112321:date=Aug 25 2010, 11:56 PM:name=bz)-->QUOTE (bz @ Aug 25 2010, 11:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Can someone post my teams roster at the end of the season? Thanks.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
super studs
Marion Barber (Dal - RB) 0 0 0 932 7 221 0 0 0 2 144
Earl Bennett (Chi - WR) 0 0 0 0 0 717 2 1 1 0 84
Jay Cutler (Chi - QB) 3666 27 26 173 1 0 0 0 2 1 270
Kellen Davis (Chi - TE) 0 0 0 0 0 75 3 0 0 0 24
Braylon Edwards (NYJ - WR) 0 0 0 0 0 680 4 0 1 1 86
Laurence Maroney (NE - RB) 0 0 0 757 9 99 0 0 0 4 123
Willis McGahee (Bal - RB) 0 0 0 544 12 85 2 0 0 1 136
Sammy Morris (NE - RB) 0 0 0 319 2 180 0 0 0 1 51
Randy Moss (NE - WR) 0 0 0 0 0 1264 13 0 1 1 196
Ben Roethlisberger (Pit - QB) 4328 26 12 82 2 0 0 0 0 3 309
Visanthe Shiancoe (Min - TE) 0 0 0 0 0 566 11 0 0 0 115
Michael Turner (Atl - RB) 0 0 0 871 10 35 0 0 0 2 141
Hines Ward (Pit - WR) 0 0 0 0 0 1167 6 0 0 1 143
Nate Kaeding (SD - K)
Baltimore (Bal - DEF) 261 32.0 0 22 10 3 1 155
New England (NE - DEF) 267 31.0 0 18 10 3 0 132
soi keeper fantasy football - Ace - 08-26-2010
<!--quoteo(post=112316:date=Aug 25 2010, 10:48 PM:name=liner)-->QUOTE (liner @ Aug 25 2010, 10:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->still down with a 6th rounder. every year there's a stud or two that goes undrafted and studs should cost something. i like Bt's explanation. reward an owner for finding him, but don't reward him too much when luck has a lot to do with it.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes, but the explanation applies equally to a 7th rounder, 8th rounder, 9th, etc. I agree with the explanation - I just think a 6th is too high.