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Time to play GM - Butcher - 10-05-2009
The Cards only scored 23 more runs than we did. They allowed 32 fewer. We actually weren't that far off on either side, but together it was enough for a 7-game difference in the standings.
Time to play GM - rok - 10-05-2009
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The head-to-head play between the 2 teams dictated a lot IMO. I'd also like to see the standard deviation of runs scored, runs allowed and compare the 2 teams as that might uncover a lot of the difference in the consistency of play between both teams.
Time to play GM - kbwsb - 10-05-2009
<!--quoteo(post=65410:date=Oct 5 2009, 02:43 PM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Oct 5 2009, 02:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->The Cards only scored 23 more runs than we did. They allowed 32 fewer. We actually weren't that far off on either side, but together it was enough for a 7-game difference in the standings.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Which is what you'd expect from a 55-run difference in run-differential. The Cards were not this amazing juggernaught, and we didn't totally suck. They won 91 games. Had Bradley played closer to his ability, and Aramis played 150 games, we probably win 91 too, and like Twins-Tigers, are looking at a playoff. (Ok, maybe we only win 88 or so. Who knows?)
Makes you wonder why we didn't try to match all of those mid-season moves the Cards made this year; without Holliday, DeRosa, etc., it's probably a race that goes down to the wire.
Time to play GM - 1060Ivy - 10-05-2009
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My guess is that the ownership issue and our starting day payroll handcuffed us from making any significant wire deals this year.
Time to play GM - Butcher - 10-05-2009
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Because Hendry was handcuffed -- he didn't have the budget to make any moves.
Time to play GM - Coldneck - 10-05-2009
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Because Hendry handcuffed hisself -- he didn't have the budget to make any moves.
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Time to play GM - Butcher - 10-05-2009
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Because Hendry handcuffed hisself -- he didn't have the budget to make any moves.
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That isn't entirely fair. Yes -- part of it was Hendry's fault, but a very large portion of it had to do with the ownership situation not being resolved.
Time to play GM - bz - 10-05-2009
Next year's team will (and should) look almost identical to this year's team. This season + Ramirez a full year - Kevin Gregg + Soto/Soriano in shape and productive = playoffs 09. So there's no reason the 2010 team, aside from canning Miles and whatever garbage role-players are left, should look any different than this team.
Experiment with Baker and if he sucks move Theriot there and move Blanco to SS. Sign a Molina, Barajas or Oliva as a backup. Keep Bradley. Keep Fox for the hurt Bradley. Our pitching is fine without Gregg. Click our heals together...
Time to play GM - rok - 10-05-2009
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Because Hendry handcuffed hisself -- he didn't have the budget to make any moves.
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That isn't entirely fair. Yes -- part of it was Hendry's fault, but a very large portion of it had to do with the ownership situation not being resolved.
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Agreed. And Lou and Hendry, to me anyway, built this team together after they got the blessing of Crane Kenney and Zell to spend like drunken sailors, so the fact that we have such a ridiculous number of bloated long-term, backloaded contracts and no one tried to stop them is a group effort. The uncertain ownership situation was awful timing as well, and was out of our front office's control. And I'm in no way giving anyone a free pass, but there is plenty of blame to go around.
Time to play GM - kbwsb - 10-05-2009
Of 30 teams:
The Cubs.... #3 in payroll, #16 in wins.
Someone has to take the fall. Traditionally, it's the GM, but I do have to give him credit for cleverly shifting the blame to one <i>player</i>.
Time to play GM - Scarey - 10-05-2009
<!--quoteo(post=65435:date=Oct 5 2009, 03:54 PM:name=KBwsb)-->QUOTE (KBwsb @ Oct 5 2009, 03:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Of 30 teams:
The Cubs.... #3 in payroll, #16 in wins.
Someone has to take the fall. Traditionally, it's the GM, but I do have to give him credit for cleverly shifting the blame to one <i>player</i>.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Does this mean the Cubs should have the third most wins every year? And they should make it to the NLCS and lose every year?
Time to play GM - veryzer - 10-05-2009
<!--quoteo(post=65435:date=Oct 5 2009, 03:54 PM:name=KBwsb)-->QUOTE (KBwsb @ Oct 5 2009, 03:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Of 30 teams:
The Cubs.... #3 in payroll, #16 in wins.
Someone has to take the fall. Traditionally, it's the GM, but I do have to give him credit for cleverly shifting the blame to one <i>player</i>.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
what? he shifted all the blame to bradley? i must have missed something.
bradley was a part of it. so was ramirez. so was soriano. so was soto. so was dempster. so was zambrano. injuries and underperformance is what killed the cubs. i think you and hendry can both agree on that.
and getting rid of bradley is he right thing to do. everyone in the world except you and bradley's mother knows that.
Time to play GM - rok - 10-05-2009
The only one saying that Hendry is putting all of the blame for this season on Bradley is some douche baseball writer on the web who hasn't watched more than 6 Cubs games all season and simply misrepresented a bunch of comments by Hendry and Lou, taken completely out of context. I'm not sure when the story became, "Bradley is the scapegoat," but it couldn't be farther from the truth. It just makes for a juicy story for clueless out-of-town bloggers who want to make something out of nothing.
Time to play GM - 1060Ivy - 10-05-2009
<!--quoteo(post=65435:date=Oct 5 2009, 03:54 PM:name=KBwsb)-->QUOTE (KBwsb @ Oct 5 2009, 03:54 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Of 30 teams:
The Cubs.... #3 in payroll, #16 in wins.
Someone has to take the fall. Traditionally, it's the GM, but I do have to give him credit for cleverly shifting the blame to one <i>player</i>.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
No issue with the Cubs being #3 in payroll. They are a top 3-5 revenue team so they should be near the top payroll.
Until the Cubs scout, develop or draft better than other teams, they will have over pay for talent.
Time to play GM - dk123 - 10-06-2009
I'm pretty sure all the Cubs need is a new hitting coach. What's Hendry doing about that? [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dry.gif[/img]