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Cubs and Grabow discussing multi-year deal - veryzer - 11-04-2009
<!--quoteo(post=68175:date=Nov 4 2009, 11:28 AM:name=jeffy)-->QUOTE (jeffy @ Nov 4 2009, 11:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=68167:date=Nov 4 2009, 11:23 AM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Nov 4 2009, 11:23 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I hope we sign Grabow to the exact deal that's being mentioned, I won't bitch about it at all. With Harden probably gone, Marshall will probably be starting and the Cubs need a LHP in the pen. I have less than no problem with this proposed deal.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Agreed.
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me too.
Cubs and Grabow discussing multi-year deal - Coldneck - 11-04-2009
Why not just let him go to arbitration, settle for 3.5M/4M and avoid the 2 year deal? That would be prudent. But JH has continued to show that prudence isn't on his list of attributes. Grabow could totally suck next year and we'd be on the hook for 2011 we we really don't need to take that risk.
Cubs and Grabow discussing multi-year deal - Ace - 11-04-2009
Grabow is not a LOOGY, and will not be used as a LOOGY. He will be the primary setup man.
I don't mind having him back, but two years and $4 million a year? Come the fuck on. Name one team out there that would pay him that, especially given the fact that he's going to be a type A free agent? Just offer him arbitration and be done with it.
Cubs and Grabow discussing multi-year deal - BT - 11-04-2009
Can we PLEASE wait until Hendry actually signs Grabow to a deal before we start moaning about it?
Cubs and Grabow discussing multi-year deal - jstraw - 11-04-2009
<!--quoteo(post=68227:date=Nov 4 2009, 10:12 PM:name=BT)-->QUOTE (BT @ Nov 4 2009, 10:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Can we PLEASE wait until Hendry actually signs Grabow to a deal before we start moaning about it?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
No.
Cubs and Grabow discussing multi-year deal - Butcher - 11-05-2009
<!--quoteo(post=68227:date=Nov 4 2009, 09:12 PM:name=BT)-->QUOTE (BT @ Nov 4 2009, 09:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Can we PLEASE wait until Hendry actually signs Grabow to a deal before we start moaning about it?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Why?
Cubs and Grabow discussing multi-year deal - Coach - 11-05-2009
<!--quoteo(post=68201:date=Nov 4 2009, 07:48 PM:name=Ace)-->QUOTE (Ace @ Nov 4 2009, 07:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Grabow is not a LOOGY, and will not be used as a LOOGY. He will be the primary setup man.
I don't mind having him back, but two years and $4 million a year? Come the fuck on. Name one team out there that would pay him that, especially given the fact that he's going to be a type A free agent? Just offer him arbitration and be done with it.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
You are correct, sir.
Cubs and Grabow discussing multi-year deal - ruby23 - 11-05-2009
<!--quoteo(post=68201:date=Nov 4 2009, 06:48 PM:name=Ace)-->QUOTE (Ace @ Nov 4 2009, 06:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Grabow is not a LOOGY, and will not be used as a LOOGY. He will be the primary setup man.
I don't mind having him back, but two years and $4 million a year? Come the fuck on. Name one team out there that would pay him that, especially given the fact that he's going to be a type A free agent? Just offer him arbitration and be done with it.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Grabow made $2.3 M last year. He is a type A free agent and offering him arbitration will take his salary to $3.5 - $4 M or more. There's nothing wrong with the proposed contract, if it's as actually stated here.
Cubs and Grabow discussing multi-year deal - Ace - 11-05-2009
<!--quoteo(post=68262:date=Nov 5 2009, 09:13 AM:name=ruby23)-->QUOTE (ruby23 @ Nov 5 2009, 09:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=68201:date=Nov 4 2009, 06:48 PM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Nov 4 2009, 06:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Grabow is not a LOOGY, and will not be used as a LOOGY. He will be the primary setup man.
I don't mind having him back, but two years and $4 million a year? Come the fuck on. Name one team out there that would pay him that, especially given the fact that he's going to be a type A free agent? Just offer him arbitration and be done with it.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Grabow made $2.3 M last year. He is a type A free agent and offering him arbitration will take his salary to $3.5 - $4 M or more. There's nothing wrong with the proposed contract, if it's as actually stated here.
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If we offer him arbitration, the WORST case scenario is we get him for the contract discussed and just ONE year.
Cubs and Grabow discussing multi-year deal - kbwsb - 11-05-2009
<!--quoteo(post=68155:date=Nov 4 2009, 08:24 AM:name=BT)-->QUOTE (BT @ Nov 4 2009, 08:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=68153:date=Nov 4 2009, 07:04 AM:name=Coldneck)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Coldneck @ Nov 4 2009, 07:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->This is just another example of JH's foolishness. It is time for him to go.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
KB has hacked another account.
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Wait...you mean I'm <i>not</i> the only one who thinks Hendry consistently overpays for mediocre players, then complains he can't afford a guy like, say, DeRosa, because he ran out of money?
This is Jim's MO.
Cubs and Grabow discussing multi-year deal - ruby23 - 11-05-2009
<!--quoteo(post=68319:date=Nov 5 2009, 04:51 PM:name=Ace)-->QUOTE (Ace @ Nov 5 2009, 04:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=68262:date=Nov 5 2009, 09:13 AM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Nov 5 2009, 09:13 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=68201:date=Nov 4 2009, 06:48 PM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ Nov 4 2009, 06:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Grabow is not a LOOGY, and will not be used as a LOOGY. He will be the primary setup man.
I don't mind having him back, but two years and $4 million a year? Come the fuck on. Name one team out there that would pay him that, especially given the fact that he's going to be a type A free agent? Just offer him arbitration and be done with it.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Grabow made $2.3 M last year. He is a type A free agent and offering him arbitration will take his salary to $3.5 - $4 M or more. There's nothing wrong with the proposed contract, if it's as actually stated here.
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If we offer him arbitration, the WORST case scenario is we get him for the contract discussed and just ONE year.
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I understand that. However, if his 2010 numbers are close to the numbers he's had in the last couple of years, the amount he would receive after 2010 in arbitration would be more. Therefore, if he suceeds like we all hope, the 2 year deal would actually save the Cubs some $$$. Nitpicking about it being a 1 or 2 year deal for a guy that will constitute about 2% of the total payroll seems rather pointless to me.
Cubs and Grabow discussing multi-year deal - ruby23 - 11-05-2009
<!--quoteo(post=68323:date=Nov 5 2009, 05:01 PM:name=KBwsb)-->QUOTE (KBwsb @ Nov 5 2009, 05:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=68155:date=Nov 4 2009, 08:24 AM:name=BT)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BT @ Nov 4 2009, 08:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=68153:date=Nov 4 2009, 07:04 AM:name=Coldneck)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Coldneck @ Nov 4 2009, 07:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->This is just another example of JH's foolishness. It is time for him to go.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
KB has hacked another account.
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Wait...you mean I'm <i>not</i> the only one who thinks Hendry consistently overpays for mediocre players, then complains he can't afford a guy like, say, DeRosa, because he ran out of money?
This is Jim's MO.
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He didn't run outta money on his own accord, the ownership changed the game.
Cubs and Grabow discussing multi-year deal - ruby23 - 11-05-2009
<!--quoteo(post=68323:date=Nov 5 2009, 05:01 PM:name=KBwsb)-->QUOTE (KBwsb @ Nov 5 2009, 05:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=68155:date=Nov 4 2009, 08:24 AM:name=BT)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BT @ Nov 4 2009, 08:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=68153:date=Nov 4 2009, 07:04 AM:name=Coldneck)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Coldneck @ Nov 4 2009, 07:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->This is just another example of JH's foolishness. It is time for him to go.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
KB has hacked another account.
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Wait...you mean I'm <i>not</i> the only one who thinks Hendry consistently overpays for mediocre players, then complains he can't afford a guy like, say, DeRosa, because he ran out of money?
This is Jim's MO.
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He didn't run outta money on his own accord, the ownership changed the game.
Cubs and Grabow discussing multi-year deal - Auz - 11-08-2009
<!--quoteo(post=68348:date=Nov 6 2009, 01:55 PM:name=ruby23)-->QUOTE (ruby23 @ Nov 6 2009, 01:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=68323:date=Nov 5 2009, 05:01 PM:name=KBwsb)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KBwsb @ Nov 5 2009, 05:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=68155:date=Nov 4 2009, 08:24 AM:name=BT)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (BT @ Nov 4 2009, 08:24 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=68153:date=Nov 4 2009, 07:04 AM:name=Coldneck)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Coldneck @ Nov 4 2009, 07:04 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->This is just another example of JH's foolishness. It is time for him to go.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
KB has hacked another account.
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Wait...you mean I'm <i>not</i> the only one who thinks Hendry consistently overpays for mediocre players, then complains he can't afford a guy like, say, DeRosa, because he ran out of money?
This is Jim's MO.
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He didn't run outta money on his own accord, the ownership changed the game.
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Deja vu?
Cubs and Grabow discussing multi-year deal - vegascub - 11-19-2009
Two-year deal reached with Grabow.