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Z to the Pen - veryzer - 05-28-2010
is it possible that Zambrano may have agreed to waive his no-trade clause in exchange for being put back in the rotation?
Z to the Pen - rok - 05-28-2010
Anything is possible, but trading him now would be tough enough given the salary involved, and we would be selling low as well.
Z to the Pen - ColoradoCub - 05-28-2010
<!--quoteo(post=98770:date=May 28 2010, 07:57 AM:name=veryzer)-->QUOTE (veryzer @ May 28 2010, 07:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->is it possible that Zambrano may have agreed to waive his no-trade clause in exchange for being put back in the rotation?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Doesn't matter. He has little trade value.
Z to the Pen - veryzer - 05-28-2010
<!--quoteo(post=98778:date=May 28 2010, 09:28 AM:name=ColoradoCub)-->QUOTE (ColoradoCub @ May 28 2010, 09:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=98770:date=May 28 2010, 07:57 AM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ May 28 2010, 07:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->is it possible that Zambrano may have agreed to waive his no-trade clause in exchange for being put back in the rotation?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Doesn't matter. He has little trade value.
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I disagree.
Z to the Pen - ColoradoCub - 05-28-2010
<!--quoteo(post=98790:date=May 28 2010, 10:09 AM:name=veryzer)-->QUOTE (veryzer @ May 28 2010, 10:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=98778:date=May 28 2010, 09:28 AM:name=ColoradoCub)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ColoradoCub @ May 28 2010, 09:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=98770:date=May 28 2010, 07:57 AM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ May 28 2010, 07:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->is it possible that Zambrano may have agreed to waive his no-trade clause in exchange for being put back in the rotation?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Doesn't matter. He has little trade value.
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I disagree.
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Then you overvalue him. Stark or Rosenthal a month ago said that they had talked to several GMs that wouldn't have anything to do with him if he were available.
Z to the Pen - veryzer - 05-28-2010
<!--quoteo(post=98792:date=May 28 2010, 11:27 AM:name=ColoradoCub)-->QUOTE (ColoradoCub @ May 28 2010, 11:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=98790:date=May 28 2010, 10:09 AM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ May 28 2010, 10:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=98778:date=May 28 2010, 09:28 AM:name=ColoradoCub)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ColoradoCub @ May 28 2010, 09:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=98770:date=May 28 2010, 07:57 AM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ May 28 2010, 07:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->is it possible that Zambrano may have agreed to waive his no-trade clause in exchange for being put back in the rotation?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Doesn't matter. He has little trade value.
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I disagree.
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Then you overvalue him. Stark or Rosenthal a month ago said that they had talked to several GMs that wouldn't have anything to do with him if he were available.
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I still disagree.
Z to the Pen - rok - 05-28-2010
<!--quoteo(post=98792:date=May 28 2010, 11:27 AM:name=ColoradoCub)-->QUOTE (ColoradoCub @ May 28 2010, 11:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=98790:date=May 28 2010, 10:09 AM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ May 28 2010, 10:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=98778:date=May 28 2010, 09:28 AM:name=ColoradoCub)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ColoradoCub @ May 28 2010, 09:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=98770:date=May 28 2010, 07:57 AM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ May 28 2010, 07:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->is it possible that Zambrano may have agreed to waive his no-trade clause in exchange for being put back in the rotation?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Doesn't matter. He has little trade value.
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I disagree.
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Then you overvalue him. Stark or Rosenthal a month ago said that they had talked to several GMs that wouldn't have anything to do with him if he were available.
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It is pretty clear that we'd be selling low on him right now, so I'm hoping we ride things out before doing anything stupid. Then again, Hendry seems to always find a way to devalue his players at the wrong time.
Z to the Pen - jstraw - 05-28-2010
<!--quoteo(post=98792:date=May 28 2010, 11:27 AM:name=ColoradoCub)-->QUOTE (ColoradoCub @ May 28 2010, 11:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=98790:date=May 28 2010, 10:09 AM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ May 28 2010, 10:09 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=98778:date=May 28 2010, 09:28 AM:name=ColoradoCub)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ColoradoCub @ May 28 2010, 09:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=98770:date=May 28 2010, 07:57 AM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ May 28 2010, 07:57 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->is it possible that Zambrano may have agreed to waive his no-trade clause in exchange for being put back in the rotation?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Doesn't matter. He has little trade value.
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I disagree.
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Then you overvalue him. Stark or Rosenthal a month ago said that they had talked to several GMs that wouldn't have anything to do with him if he were available.
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That's a negotiating position.
Z to the Pen - Coach - 05-28-2010
Z has a bit more trade value than Gorz, which isn't saying much.
Z to the Pen - Kid - 05-28-2010
Gorzelanny may have just gotten a stay of execution. I'd bet it's Wells to the pen.
Z to the Pen - Coach - 05-28-2010
Has Wells luck ran out?
Z to the Pen - rok - 05-28-2010
<!--quoteo(post=98873:date=May 28 2010, 02:55 PM:name=Coach)-->QUOTE (Coach @ May 28 2010, 02:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Has Wells luck ran out?<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
He's been solid most of the year aside from 2 starts, so the jury is still out.
Z to the Pen - Clapp - 05-28-2010
Wells was all over the middle of the plate and he can't pitch like that with his average stuff. He has to hit his spots, and he usually does. But yeah, I agree that I think he's headed to the pen now with how knee-jerk Lou is with everything. And I can't see Wells doing very good in that role. He's a starting pitcher.
Z to the Pen - rok - 05-28-2010
<!--quoteo(post=98889:date=May 28 2010, 03:45 PM:name=Clapp)-->QUOTE (Clapp @ May 28 2010, 03:45 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Wells was all over the middle of the plate and he can't pitch like that with his average stuff. He has to hit his spots, and he usually does. But yeah, I agree that I think he's headed to the pen now with how knee-jerk Lou is with everything. And I can't see Wells doing very good in that role. He's a starting pitcher.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Wasn't he a reliever down in the minors for a little while? Maybe he'll surprise us.
Z to the Pen - Ace - 05-28-2010
Lou suggested the guy was Wells a week ago.