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Toughest Division? - rok - 05-18-2009
<!--quoteo(post=38573:date=May 18 2009, 07:09 PM:name=ruby23)-->QUOTE (ruby23 @ May 18 2009, 07:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=38566:date=May 18 2009, 05:55 PM:name=biggz)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (biggz @ May 18 2009, 05:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=38564:date=May 18 2009, 05:50 PM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ May 18 2009, 05:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->One thing I know: it's utter horse shit that the NL Central continues to have 6 teams while the AL West has 4.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The only way it could work with 15 teams in each league:
A - There is an odd number of interleague games everyday
B - A given team from each league has a day off everyday
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And that would be just fine.
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Either AZ, Houston or Colorado needs to be sent off to the AL West. It's ridiculous that MLB allowed all 3 of those teams to be in the NL after expansion.
Toughest Division? - Clapp - 05-18-2009
Considering geographical location, the Astros to the AL West makes the most sense. They'd then get a great rivalry going with the Rangers.
Toughest Division? - rok - 05-18-2009
<!--quoteo(post=38580:date=May 18 2009, 07:31 PM:name=Clapp)-->QUOTE (Clapp @ May 18 2009, 07:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Considering geographical location, the Astros to the AL West makes the most sense. They'd then get a great rivalry going with the Rangers.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeah, but I can also understand it if MLB wanted to keep one team from TX in the AL and one in the NL, as they've done in the past with NY, CHI and FLA. You could make an argument that neither AZ or Colorado has much of a rivalry with any NL team, so those would have been the easiest to choose from.
I know you'd probably like to keep Colorado in the NL though. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif[/img]
Toughest Division? - savant - 05-18-2009
To me the only logical solution would be to contract the Cardinals and the White Sox.
Toughest Division? - ruby23 - 05-18-2009
<!--quoteo(post=38587:date=May 18 2009, 08:28 PM:name=rok)-->QUOTE (rok @ May 18 2009, 08:28 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=38580:date=May 18 2009, 07:31 PM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ May 18 2009, 07:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Considering geographical location, the Astros to the AL West makes the most sense. They'd then get a great rivalry going with the Rangers.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yeah, but I can also understand it if MLB wanted to keep one team from TX in the AL and one in the NL, as they've done in the past with NY, CHI and FLA. You could make an argument that neither AZ or Colorado has much of a rivalry with any NL team, so those would have been the easiest to choose from.
I know you'd probably like to keep Colorado in the NL though. [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/wink.gif[/img]
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Yeah, I think Colorado or Arizona to the AL West and Houston to the NL West would be the best solution.
Toughest Division? - biggz - 05-19-2009
<!--quoteo(post=38573:date=May 18 2009, 07:09 PM:name=ruby23)-->QUOTE (ruby23 @ May 18 2009, 07:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=38566:date=May 18 2009, 05:55 PM:name=biggz)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (biggz @ May 18 2009, 05:55 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=38564:date=May 18 2009, 05:50 PM:name=Ace)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Ace @ May 18 2009, 05:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->One thing I know: it's utter horse shit that the NL Central continues to have 6 teams while the AL West has 4.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The only way it could work with 15 teams in each league:
A - There is an odd number of interleague games everyday
B - A given team from each league has a day off everyday
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And that would be just fine.
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Oh, I wouldn't mind it at all. I just highly doubt with Bad Selig as commish we'll get anything drastic like that.
I think it'd be kind of cool to have at least one interleague game a day. Then the Cubs would be able to sweep the Sux more than 2 times a year.
Toughest Division? - veryzer - 05-19-2009
<!--quoteo(post=38541:date=May 18 2009, 04:17 PM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ May 18 2009, 04:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->We'll see. It's hard to say just based on records at this point. Maybe every team the NL Central sucks, but they all suck to about the same degree. I do think the division is a helluva lot better than most people thought it would be.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
you won't be saying that in a month, when the cards and the reds are floundering and the brewers are .500.
Toughest Division? - veryzer - 05-19-2009
moving teams is only part of the answer. there are teams that need to be contracted first. moving the expos to washington was the first mistake. that team should have just disappeared.
Toughest Division? - ruby23 - 05-19-2009
<!--quoteo(post=38639:date=May 19 2009, 07:38 AM:name=veryzer)-->QUOTE (veryzer @ May 19 2009, 07:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->moving teams is only part of the answer. there are teams that need to be contracted first. moving the expos to washington was the first mistake. that team should have just disappeared.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Contracting teams isn't gonna even out the divisions, unless they go back to a 2 league, 2 division system. I don't see how contracting teams does anything positive.
Toughest Division? - veryzer - 05-19-2009
<!--quoteo(post=38645:date=May 19 2009, 07:59 AM:name=ruby23)-->QUOTE (ruby23 @ May 19 2009, 07:59 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=38639:date=May 19 2009, 07:38 AM:name=veryzer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (veryzer @ May 19 2009, 07:38 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->moving teams is only part of the answer. there are teams that need to be contracted first. moving the expos to washington was the first mistake. that team should have just disappeared.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Contracting teams isn't gonna even out the divisions, unless they go back to a 2 league, 2 division system. I don't see how contracting teams does anything positive.
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three 4 team divisions in each league. i'm pretty sure we can come up with 6 teams that need to go. less teams means more competitive leagues. that's a positive, right?
Toughest Division? - Coldneck - 05-19-2009
Yeah, I'm sure the player's association is going to be all for 20% of it's members being axed.
Toughest Division? - ruby23 - 05-19-2009
<!--quoteo(post=38653:date=May 19 2009, 09:27 AM:name=Coldneck)-->QUOTE (Coldneck @ May 19 2009, 09:27 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Yeah, I'm sure the player's association is going to be all for 20% of it's members being axed.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Not to mention the 30+ minor league teams that would also get the axe. Contraction on that scale ain't happening and it shouldn't.
Toughest Division? - rok - 05-19-2009
Contraction would only happen in a doomsday scenario or if we ended up in an all-out depression. And even in that scenario, I could see contracting 1 or 2 teams, but not more than that. It just would be an all-too embarrassing moment for MLB to admit that they can't support so many teams, especially after so many years of growth.
Toughest Division? - veryzer - 05-19-2009
i never said it would happen. i said it should happen. and it should. absolutely.
Toughest Division? - Butcher - 05-19-2009
<!--quoteo(post=38681:date=May 19 2009, 12:40 PM:name=veryzer)-->QUOTE (veryzer @ May 19 2009, 12:40 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->i never said it would happen. i said it should happen. and it should. absolutely.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Which 6 teams would you propose to axe?
- Nationals
- Marlins
Who else? Any other team I can think of is either profitable or has fairly solid fanbase.