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Bullpen - Jody - 04-17-2009
<!--quoteo(post=31439:date=Apr 17 2009, 04:41 PM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Apr 17 2009, 04:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=31437:date=Apr 17 2009, 04:21 PM:name=Jody)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Jody @ Apr 17 2009, 04:21 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=31433:date=Apr 17 2009, 04:14 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Apr 17 2009, 04:14 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=31431:date=Apr 17 2009, 04:12 PM:name=The Dude)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The Dude @ Apr 17 2009, 04:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->So... is Marmol the closer now? Both guys were rested today.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I like that he used him against the heart of the order. If those guys came up in the 8th, I'd want Marmol then. If it was 6-7-8 or 7-8-9 in the 9th, then use Gregg.
But I don't know what Lou is thinking. Hopefully he's thinking what I'm thinking.
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You mean to say that you hope Lou is thinking that while painful and embarassing when put on the internet, anal clown sex can be a zesty and invigorating activity?
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That's precisely what I meant.
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Yep, I knew it.
Bullpen - Butcher - 04-17-2009
I will never, ever forgive bz. Ever.
Bullpen - PcB - 04-17-2009
<!--quoteo(post=31441:date=Apr 17 2009, 04:48 PM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Apr 17 2009, 04:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I will never, ever forgive bz. Ever.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
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Bullpen - ColoradoCub - 04-17-2009
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Bullpen - leonardsipes - 04-17-2009
This is the first game a Cubs starter completed 7 innings. I agreed w/ Lou's decision to keep Zambrano in the game. His pitch count was reasonable and he was a better than any one in the pen except Marmol.
Bullpen - Scarey - 04-18-2009
I asked in the game thread, but I'll ask again. Guzman is throwing a LOT of fastballs. He's pitched pretty well so far, but I would love to see his change up on occasion, especially today against Ankiel with two strikes.
Also, does he not throw his curve anymore? I remember it being a plus pitch for him when he was still starting. I could see them eliminating it to keep him healthy, but I don't think they would get rid of it because it wasn't effective.
Bullpen - Fella - 04-18-2009
I know he throws a slider, not sure about a curve.
He was throwing a ton of fastballs today though for sure, almost every pitch.
Bullpen - sleepyhead - 04-18-2009
<!--quoteo(post=31605:date=Apr 18 2009, 06:39 PM:name=Fella)-->QUOTE (Fella @ Apr 18 2009, 06:39 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I know he throws a slider, not sure about a curve.
He was throwing a ton of fastballs today though for sure, almost every pitch.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
He threw a lot of curves in earlier outings, think he was just trying to get ahead with the fastball but fell behind and then didn't want to walk anyone.
Bullpen - Mikey - 04-19-2009
i hate Neil Cotts!
Bullpen - Runnys - 04-19-2009
<!--quoteo(post=31652:date=Apr 19 2009, 12:29 PM:name=Mikey)-->QUOTE (Mikey @ Apr 19 2009, 12:29 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->i hate Neil Cotts!<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Not sure what Neil Cotts ever did to you, but I loathe NeAl Cotts.
Bullpen - kbwsb - 04-19-2009
<!--quoteo(post=31604:date=Apr 18 2009, 06:35 PM:name=Scarey)-->QUOTE (Scarey @ Apr 18 2009, 06:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->I asked in the game thread, but I'll ask again. Guzman is throwing a LOT of fastballs. He's pitched pretty well so far, but I would love to see his change up on occasion, especially today against Ankiel with two strikes.
Also, does he not throw his curve anymore? I remember it being a plus pitch for him when he was still starting. I could see them eliminating it to keep him healthy, but I don't think they would get rid of it because it wasn't effective.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I wonder if they told him to take it easy on the curves. He's been one of our best pitching prospects since the days of ITI, and yet he <i>just</i> picked up his first ever ML win.
Bullpen - Clapp - 04-19-2009
Looked like he was throwing curveballs to me in ST.
Bullpen - sleepyhead - 04-20-2009
<!--quoteo(post=31678:date=Apr 19 2009, 09:53 PM:name=Clapp)-->QUOTE (Clapp @ Apr 19 2009, 09:53 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Looked like he was throwing curveballs to me in ST.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
He was throwing curveballs earlier in the year. He had a sick one in Houston especially. Don't think the lack of one on Saturday means much of anything.
Bullpen - kbwsb - 04-20-2009
So, he's got a curve, a good change, a slider he can throw for strikes, and a fine MLB heater.
I would bet that he'll quickly become Lou's fair-haired boy in the pen, as long as he throws strikes.
Bullpen - Jody - 04-20-2009
He was throwing his curve with a lot of bite in his first outing this year.