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DeRosa Traded to Indians - Butcher - 01-01-2009
<!--quoteo-->QUOTE <!--quotec-->Although one team official said during the winter meetings that DeRosa would be traded only as part of an effort to acquire Peavy, the Cubs' plans evolved enough since then that they said the DeRosa trade was made independent of Peavy considerations.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
So...dumping DeRosa for middling prospects and replacing him with Miles was the actual plan?
DeRosa Traded to Indians - ruby23 - 01-01-2009
<!--quoteo(post=8072:date=Jan 1 2009, 12:28 AM:name=KBwsb)-->QUOTE (KBwsb @ Jan 1 2009, 12:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=8070:date=Jan 1 2009, 12:15 AM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Jan 1 2009, 12:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->If this doesn't lead to Peavy, I have no idea what the hell Hendry is thinking. Wood and DeRo gone. Gregg and Miles on board.
So far the team has been <b>downgraded</b>.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Boy, I hadn't thought about it that way, but you're right Butch.
Gregg is a "closer," but just a pale imitation of Wood.
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Sonofabitch, you keep saying shit like this, but it's totally fabricated. Look at their stats for fuck's sake, they're almost the same fucking guy. Anyone who thinks this is a drastic change isn't living in reality.
DeRosa Traded to Indians - Butcher - 01-01-2009
<!--quoteo(post=8079:date=Jan 1 2009, 09:43 AM:name=ruby23)-->QUOTE (ruby23 @ Jan 1 2009, 09:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=8072:date=Jan 1 2009, 12:28 AM:name=KBwsb)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KBwsb @ Jan 1 2009, 12:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=8070:date=Jan 1 2009, 12:15 AM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Jan 1 2009, 12:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->If this doesn't lead to Peavy, I have no idea what the hell Hendry is thinking. Wood and DeRo gone. Gregg and Miles on board.
So far the team has been <b>downgraded</b>.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Boy, I hadn't thought about it that way, but you're right Butch.
Gregg is a "closer," but just a pale imitation of Wood.
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Sonofabitch, you keep saying shit like this, but it's totally fabricated. Look at their stats for fuck's sake, they're almost the same fucking guy. Anyone who thinks this is a drastic change isn't living in reality.
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There isn't a big difference between Wood and Gregg, but there is a massive difference between DeRosa and Miles.
DeRosa Traded to Indians - ruby23 - 01-01-2009
<!--quoteo(post=8088:date=Jan 1 2009, 11:16 AM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Jan 1 2009, 11:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=8079:date=Jan 1 2009, 09:43 AM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Jan 1 2009, 09:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=8072:date=Jan 1 2009, 12:28 AM:name=KBwsb)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KBwsb @ Jan 1 2009, 12:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=8070:date=Jan 1 2009, 12:15 AM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Jan 1 2009, 12:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->If this doesn't lead to Peavy, I have no idea what the hell Hendry is thinking. Wood and DeRo gone. Gregg and Miles on board.
So far the team has been <b>downgraded</b>.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Boy, I hadn't thought about it that way, but you're right Butch.
Gregg is a "closer," but just a pale imitation of Wood.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Sonofabitch, you keep saying shit like this, but it's totally fabricated. Look at their stats for fuck's sake, they're almost the same fucking guy. Anyone who thinks this is a drastic change isn't living in reality.
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There isn't a big difference between Wood and Gregg, but there is a massive difference between DeRosa and Miles.
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Yes, Miles and DeRosa aren't comparable.
DeRosa Traded to Indians - Rappster - 01-01-2009
<!--quoteo(post=8091:date=Jan 1 2009, 11:42 AM:name=ruby23)-->QUOTE (ruby23 @ Jan 1 2009, 11:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=8088:date=Jan 1 2009, 11:16 AM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Jan 1 2009, 11:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=8079:date=Jan 1 2009, 09:43 AM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Jan 1 2009, 09:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=8072:date=Jan 1 2009, 12:28 AM:name=KBwsb)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KBwsb @ Jan 1 2009, 12:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=8070:date=Jan 1 2009, 12:15 AM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Jan 1 2009, 12:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->If this doesn't lead to Peavy, I have no idea what the hell Hendry is thinking. Wood and DeRo gone. Gregg and Miles on board.
So far the team has been <b>downgraded</b>.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Boy, I hadn't thought about it that way, but you're right Butch.
Gregg is a "closer," but just a pale imitation of Wood.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Sonofabitch, you keep saying shit like this, but it's totally fabricated. Look at their stats for fuck's sake, they're almost the same fucking guy. Anyone who thinks this is a drastic change isn't living in reality.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
There isn't a big difference between Wood and Gregg, but there is a massive difference between DeRosa and Miles.
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Yes, Miles and DeRosa aren't comparable.
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Bingo...
DeRosa Traded to Indians - ruby23 - 01-01-2009
<!--quoteo(post=8092:date=Jan 1 2009, 11:46 AM:name=Rappster)-->QUOTE (Rappster @ Jan 1 2009, 11:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=8091:date=Jan 1 2009, 11:42 AM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Jan 1 2009, 11:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=8088:date=Jan 1 2009, 11:16 AM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Jan 1 2009, 11:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=8079:date=Jan 1 2009, 09:43 AM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Jan 1 2009, 09:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=8072:date=Jan 1 2009, 12:28 AM:name=KBwsb)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KBwsb @ Jan 1 2009, 12:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=8070:date=Jan 1 2009, 12:15 AM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Jan 1 2009, 12:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->If this doesn't lead to Peavy, I have no idea what the hell Hendry is thinking. Wood and DeRo gone. Gregg and Miles on board.
So far the team has been <b>downgraded</b>.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Boy, I hadn't thought about it that way, but you're right Butch.
Gregg is a "closer," but just a pale imitation of Wood.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Sonofabitch, you keep saying shit like this, but it's totally fabricated. Look at their stats for fuck's sake, they're almost the same fucking guy. Anyone who thinks this is a drastic change isn't living in reality.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
There isn't a big difference between Wood and Gregg, but there is a massive difference between DeRosa and Miles.
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Yes, Miles and DeRosa aren't comparable.
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Bingo...
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But, Miles and Bradley > DeRosa.
DeRosa Traded to Indians - Butcher - 01-01-2009
<!--quoteo(post=8094:date=Jan 1 2009, 12:11 PM:name=ruby23)-->QUOTE (ruby23 @ Jan 1 2009, 12:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=8092:date=Jan 1 2009, 11:46 AM:name=Rappster)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rappster @ Jan 1 2009, 11:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=8091:date=Jan 1 2009, 11:42 AM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Jan 1 2009, 11:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=8088:date=Jan 1 2009, 11:16 AM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Jan 1 2009, 11:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=8079:date=Jan 1 2009, 09:43 AM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Jan 1 2009, 09:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=8072:date=Jan 1 2009, 12:28 AM:name=KBwsb)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KBwsb @ Jan 1 2009, 12:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=8070:date=Jan 1 2009, 12:15 AM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Jan 1 2009, 12:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->If this doesn't lead to Peavy, I have no idea what the hell Hendry is thinking. Wood and DeRo gone. Gregg and Miles on board.
So far the team has been <b>downgraded</b>.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Boy, I hadn't thought about it that way, but you're right Butch.
Gregg is a "closer," but just a pale imitation of Wood.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Sonofabitch, you keep saying shit like this, but it's totally fabricated. Look at their stats for fuck's sake, they're almost the same fucking guy. Anyone who thinks this is a drastic change isn't living in reality.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
There isn't a big difference between Wood and Gregg, but there is a massive difference between DeRosa and Miles.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Yes, Miles and DeRosa aren't comparable.
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Bingo...
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But, Miles and Bradley > DeRosa.
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But DeRosa and Bradley > Miles and Bradley.
DeRosa Traded to Indians - ruby23 - 01-01-2009
<!--quoteo(post=8096:date=Jan 1 2009, 12:23 PM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Jan 1 2009, 12:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=8094:date=Jan 1 2009, 12:11 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Jan 1 2009, 12:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=8092:date=Jan 1 2009, 11:46 AM:name=Rappster)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rappster @ Jan 1 2009, 11:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=8091:date=Jan 1 2009, 11:42 AM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Jan 1 2009, 11:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=8088:date=Jan 1 2009, 11:16 AM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Jan 1 2009, 11:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=8079:date=Jan 1 2009, 09:43 AM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Jan 1 2009, 09:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=8072:date=Jan 1 2009, 12:28 AM:name=KBwsb)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KBwsb @ Jan 1 2009, 12:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=8070:date=Jan 1 2009, 12:15 AM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Jan 1 2009, 12:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->If this doesn't lead to Peavy, I have no idea what the hell Hendry is thinking. Wood and DeRo gone. Gregg and Miles on board.
So far the team has been <b>downgraded</b>.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Boy, I hadn't thought about it that way, but you're right Butch.
Gregg is a "closer," but just a pale imitation of Wood.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Sonofabitch, you keep saying shit like this, but it's totally fabricated. Look at their stats for fuck's sake, they're almost the same fucking guy. Anyone who thinks this is a drastic change isn't living in reality.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
There isn't a big difference between Wood and Gregg, but there is a massive difference between DeRosa and Miles.
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Yes, Miles and DeRosa aren't comparable.
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Bingo...
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But, Miles and Bradley > DeRosa.
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But DeRosa and Bradley > Miles and Bradley.
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Yes.
DeRosa Traded to Indians - Runnys - 01-01-2009
<!--quoteo(post=8101:date=Jan 1 2009, 12:43 PM:name=ruby23)-->QUOTE (ruby23 @ Jan 1 2009, 12:43 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=8096:date=Jan 1 2009, 12:23 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Jan 1 2009, 12:23 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=8094:date=Jan 1 2009, 12:11 PM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Jan 1 2009, 12:11 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=8092:date=Jan 1 2009, 11:46 AM:name=Rappster)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Rappster @ Jan 1 2009, 11:46 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=8091:date=Jan 1 2009, 11:42 AM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Jan 1 2009, 11:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=8088:date=Jan 1 2009, 11:16 AM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Jan 1 2009, 11:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=8079:date=Jan 1 2009, 09:43 AM:name=ruby23)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ruby23 @ Jan 1 2009, 09:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=8072:date=Jan 1 2009, 12:28 AM:name=KBwsb)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KBwsb @ Jan 1 2009, 12:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=8070:date=Jan 1 2009, 12:15 AM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Jan 1 2009, 12:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->If this doesn't lead to Peavy, I have no idea what the hell Hendry is thinking. Wood and DeRo gone. Gregg and Miles on board.
So far the team has been <b>downgraded</b>.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Boy, I hadn't thought about it that way, but you're right Butch.
Gregg is a "closer," but just a pale imitation of Wood.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Sonofabitch, you keep saying shit like this, but it's totally fabricated. Look at their stats for fuck's sake, they're almost the same fucking guy. Anyone who thinks this is a drastic change isn't living in reality.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
There isn't a big difference between Wood and Gregg, but there is a massive difference between DeRosa and Miles.
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Yes, Miles and DeRosa aren't comparable.
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Bingo...
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But, Miles and Bradley > DeRosa.
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But DeRosa and Bradley > Miles and Bradley.
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Yes.
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But Miles, Peavy, and Bradley > Derosa & Marquis
DeRosa Traded to Indians - Runnys - 01-01-2009
That is assuming we go after Peavy.
DeRosa Traded to Indians - Butcher - 01-01-2009
<!--quoteo(post=8106:date=Jan 1 2009, 12:51 PM:name=Runnys)-->QUOTE (Runnys @ Jan 1 2009, 12:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->That is assuming we go after Peavy.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
If we land Peavy, I'm fine with the DeRosa trade. But unless Hendry already has the pieces in place and the trade already outlined and agreed on, then this was an idiotic move and moving DeRosa made us a weaker team.
If this wasn't laying the groundwork for a Peavy deal, then it was a rebuilding move. And I haven't seen any evidence that we're rebuilding in 2009.
DeRosa Traded to Indians - Clapp - 01-01-2009
<!--quoteo(post=8113:date=Jan 1 2009, 01:12 PM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Jan 1 2009, 01:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=8106:date=Jan 1 2009, 12:51 PM:name=Runnys)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Runnys @ Jan 1 2009, 12:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->That is assuming we go after Peavy.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
If we land Peavy, I'm fine with the DeRosa trade. But unless Hendry already has the pieces in place and the trade already outlined and agreed on, then this was an idiotic move and moving DeRosa made us a weaker team.
If this wasn't laying the groundwork for a Peavy deal, then it was a rebuilding move. And I haven't seen any evidence that we're rebuilding in 2009.
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We're not rebuilding anytime soon.
DeRosa Traded to Indians - Butcher - 01-01-2009
<!--quoteo(post=8117:date=Jan 1 2009, 01:19 PM:name=Clapp)-->QUOTE (Clapp @ Jan 1 2009, 01:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=8113:date=Jan 1 2009, 01:12 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Jan 1 2009, 01:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=8106:date=Jan 1 2009, 12:51 PM:name=Runnys)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Runnys @ Jan 1 2009, 12:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->That is assuming we go after Peavy.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
If we land Peavy, I'm fine with the DeRosa trade. But unless Hendry already has the pieces in place and the trade already outlined and agreed on, then this was an idiotic move and moving DeRosa made us a weaker team.
If this wasn't laying the groundwork for a Peavy deal, then it was a rebuilding move. And I haven't seen any evidence that we're rebuilding in 2009.
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We're not rebuilding anytime soon.
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Then why did Hendry trade DeRosa for prospects? It has to be for pieces for another trade if we aren't rebuilding.
DeRosa Traded to Indians - kbwsb - 01-01-2009
<!--quoteo(post=8079:date=Jan 1 2009, 09:43 AM:name=ruby23)-->QUOTE (ruby23 @ Jan 1 2009, 09:43 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=8072:date=Jan 1 2009, 12:28 AM:name=KBwsb)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (KBwsb @ Jan 1 2009, 12:28 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=8070:date=Jan 1 2009, 12:15 AM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Jan 1 2009, 12:15 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->If this doesn't lead to Peavy, I have no idea what the hell Hendry is thinking. Wood and DeRo gone. Gregg and Miles on board.
So far the team has been <b>downgraded</b>.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Boy, I hadn't thought about it that way, but you're right Butch.
Gregg is a "closer," but just a pale imitation of Wood.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Sonofabitch, you keep saying shit like this, but it's totally fabricated. Look at their stats for fuck's sake, they're almost the same fucking guy. Anyone who thinks this is a drastic change isn't living in reality.
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For fuck's sake, <b>read</b> the post. Butch's theory: the Cubs have downgraded.
My supporting evidence: Wood> Gregg
DeRosa >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Miles
And Gregg IS a downgrade from Kerry Wood. <i>You</i> look at the stats. One misses bats, and is elite. The other is pretty good, but not elite.
WHIP.......ERA+
1.085.......137 (140 the year before)
1.282.......125 (122 the year before)
Guess which one's which?
DeRosa Traded to Indians - Clapp - 01-01-2009
<!--quoteo(post=8120:date=Jan 1 2009, 01:24 PM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Jan 1 2009, 01:24 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=8117:date=Jan 1 2009, 01:19 PM:name=Clapp)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Clapp @ Jan 1 2009, 01:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=8113:date=Jan 1 2009, 01:12 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Jan 1 2009, 01:12 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=8106:date=Jan 1 2009, 12:51 PM:name=Runnys)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Runnys @ Jan 1 2009, 12:51 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->That is assuming we go after Peavy.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
If we land Peavy, I'm fine with the DeRosa trade. But unless Hendry already has the pieces in place and the trade already outlined and agreed on, then this was an idiotic move and moving DeRosa made us a weaker team.
If this wasn't laying the groundwork for a Peavy deal, then it was a rebuilding move. And I haven't seen any evidence that we're rebuilding in 2009.
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We're not rebuilding anytime soon.
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Then why did Hendry trade DeRosa for prospects? It has to be for pieces for another trade if we aren't rebuilding.
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We're not "rebuilding". The core's still here for at least a couple more years, and Soto and Marmol for example a lot longer. You're lying to yourself if you think Hendry's really not trying to make the team better. There's still 2 months to go in the offseason, and he claims we'll have a better team on the field this year than last year. After the moves he's made the last couple years I'm forced to believe him and think this means he has a couple big moves in the plans.