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Will it happen in your lifetime? - Butcher - 07-27-2010
I used to think that it would eventually happen. The Cubs would eventually find the right combination of talent and luck and win the World Series before I die. Now I'm not so sure. In fact, if I had to bet my life savings on it, I think I'd bet that I'll never see the Cubs win it all. I'd probably take it a step further and say I'll never see an NL Pennant.
I'm curious what the rest of the community thinks.
Will it happen in your lifetime? - jstraw - 07-27-2010
We'll win it all within a decade.
Will it happen in your lifetime? - Butcher - 07-27-2010
<!--quoteo(post=108219:date=Jul 27 2010, 12:16 PM:name=jstraw)-->QUOTE (jstraw @ Jul 27 2010, 12:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->We'll win it all within a decade.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
In 2003, I wasn't thinking we might win a World Series in the 00s -- I was trying to decide how many we'd win.
Boy, was I stupid.
What makes you think this, by the way? Just a gut feeling?
Will it happen in your lifetime? - jeffy - 07-27-2010
I'm sure we'll make a few more stabs at it in my lifetime, but as for winning it all......i dont know. Who really knows what the team will look like in 10 years or more. I really don't see us having a World Series caliber team in the next 5 years, but if the right moves are made then something could happen, but it would take some big moves, and a shit load of luck.
Will it happen in your lifetime? - jstraw - 07-27-2010
<!--quoteo(post=108220:date=Jul 27 2010, 12:19 PM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Jul 27 2010, 12:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=108219:date=Jul 27 2010, 12:16 PM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Jul 27 2010, 12:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->We'll win it all within a decade.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
In 2003, I wasn't thinking we might win a World Series in the 00s -- I was trying to decide how many we'd win.
Boy, was I stupid.
What makes you think this, by the way? Just a gut feeling?
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I think this because there's no reason we shouldn't. We have new owners with deep pockets. A large payroll that realistically will trend upward with the rest of the league. We have greatly improved scouting and farm systems and we have a devoted fan base. If the front office is configured properly and puts together a good roster there's no reason that from where we stand right now, we should be unable to win it within a decade.
The counterargument is based upon curses, "Cubbie occurrences" and all the rest of that bullshit I pay no attention to.
Will it happen in your lifetime? - Butcher - 07-27-2010
<!--quoteo(post=108222:date=Jul 27 2010, 12:31 PM:name=jstraw)-->QUOTE (jstraw @ Jul 27 2010, 12:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=108220:date=Jul 27 2010, 12:19 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Jul 27 2010, 12:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=108219:date=Jul 27 2010, 12:16 PM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Jul 27 2010, 12:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->We'll win it all within a decade.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
In 2003, I wasn't thinking we might win a World Series in the 00s -- I was trying to decide how many we'd win.
Boy, was I stupid.
What makes you think this, by the way? Just a gut feeling?
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I think this because there's no reason we shouldn't. We have new owners with deep pockets. A large payroll that realistically will trend upward with the rest of the league. We have greatly improved scouting and farm systems and we have a devoted fan base. If the front office is configured properly and puts together a good roster there's no reason that from where we stand right now, we should be unable to win it within a decade.
The counterargument is based upon curses, "Cubbie occurrences" and all the rest of that bullshit I pay no attention to.
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The crushing weight of history is a real thing. Alex Gonzalez felt it when a routine DP ball rolled in his direction.
Will it happen in your lifetime? - Bricklayer - 07-27-2010
<!--quoteo(post=108223:date=Jul 27 2010, 12:35 PM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Jul 27 2010, 12:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=108222:date=Jul 27 2010, 12:31 PM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Jul 27 2010, 12:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=108220:date=Jul 27 2010, 12:19 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Jul 27 2010, 12:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=108219:date=Jul 27 2010, 12:16 PM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Jul 27 2010, 12:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->We'll win it all within a decade.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
In 2003, I wasn't thinking we might win a World Series in the 00s -- I was trying to decide how many we'd win.
Boy, was I stupid.
What makes you think this, by the way? Just a gut feeling?
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I think this because there's no reason we shouldn't. We have new owners with deep pockets. A large payroll that realistically will trend upward with the rest of the league. We have greatly improved scouting and farm systems and we have a devoted fan base. If the front office is configured properly and puts together a good roster there's no reason that from where we stand right now, we should be unable to win it within a decade.
The counterargument is based upon curses, "Cubbie occurrences" and all the rest of that bullshit I pay no attention to.
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The crushing weight of history is a real thing. Alex Gonzalez felt it when a routine DP ball rolled in his direction.
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Well then, the Cubs will never win it since the crushing weight of history just keeps getting heavier with each failed year. If it was too much 7 years ago what hope is there now. This franchise might as well cease to exist. Put it and us out of our collective misery because the history is just too fucking daunting.
Will it happen in your lifetime? - Butcher - 07-27-2010
<!--quoteo(post=108225:date=Jul 27 2010, 12:50 PM:name=Bricklayer)-->QUOTE (Bricklayer @ Jul 27 2010, 12:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=108223:date=Jul 27 2010, 12:35 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Jul 27 2010, 12:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=108222:date=Jul 27 2010, 12:31 PM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Jul 27 2010, 12:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=108220:date=Jul 27 2010, 12:19 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Jul 27 2010, 12:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=108219:date=Jul 27 2010, 12:16 PM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Jul 27 2010, 12:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->We'll win it all within a decade.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
In 2003, I wasn't thinking we might win a World Series in the 00s -- I was trying to decide how many we'd win.
Boy, was I stupid.
What makes you think this, by the way? Just a gut feeling?
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I think this because there's no reason we shouldn't. We have new owners with deep pockets. A large payroll that realistically will trend upward with the rest of the league. We have greatly improved scouting and farm systems and we have a devoted fan base. If the front office is configured properly and puts together a good roster there's no reason that from where we stand right now, we should be unable to win it within a decade.
The counterargument is based upon curses, "Cubbie occurrences" and all the rest of that bullshit I pay no attention to.
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The crushing weight of history is a real thing. Alex Gonzalez felt it when a routine DP ball rolled in his direction.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well then, the Cubs will never win it since the crushing weight of history just keeps getting heavier with each failed year. If it was too much 7 years ago what hope is there now. This franchise might as well cease to exist. Put it and us out of our collective misery because the history is just too fucking daunting.
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That sums up how I'm feeling pretty well, actually.
Will it happen in your lifetime? - willis - 07-27-2010
Yeah don't underestimate the crushing weight of history to certain players. 2003 we were there, had the pitching and had Sosa, Alou, and Rammi up the middle of the lineup. The Marlins had no business winning game 6, yet they did because of gross mistakes that came from somewhere...
I said no. I see no reason why to this point they have not with their resources and just don't see why that would change. Lucky for the cubs is they are the kings of the NL Central as far as $$ is concerned. That doesn't always do it (obviously we have seen) but that is working in the team's favor. I believe as jstraw said the scouting has gotten better and the farm system has made tremendous strides. But there is a reason it has been 102 years since they have won it all and 65 since a World Series. It is nearly impossible to explain. In 2004 I would argue the cubs were the most talented team at least in the NL. In 2008 the road was paved through Wrigley to get to WS. I just don't get it. I will root my heart out and follow this team until I am dead, which I have no idea when that will be. But unfortunately I just don't see it happening.
Will it happen in your lifetime? - jstraw - 07-27-2010
The crushing weight of history is nonsense.
Will it happen in your lifetime? - Coldneck - 07-27-2010
I think they'll win it in my lifetime, but maybe not Sipes' or Lance's.
Will it happen in your lifetime? - Bricklayer - 07-27-2010
<!--quoteo(post=108226:date=Jul 27 2010, 12:52 PM:name=Butcher)-->QUOTE (Butcher @ Jul 27 2010, 12:52 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=108225:date=Jul 27 2010, 12:50 PM:name=Bricklayer)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Bricklayer @ Jul 27 2010, 12:50 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=108223:date=Jul 27 2010, 12:35 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Jul 27 2010, 12:35 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=108222:date=Jul 27 2010, 12:31 PM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Jul 27 2010, 12:31 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=108220:date=Jul 27 2010, 12:19 PM:name=Butcher)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Butcher @ Jul 27 2010, 12:19 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec--><!--quoteo(post=108219:date=Jul 27 2010, 12:16 PM:name=jstraw)--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (jstraw @ Jul 27 2010, 12:16 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->We'll win it all within a decade.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
In 2003, I wasn't thinking we might win a World Series in the 00s -- I was trying to decide how many we'd win.
Boy, was I stupid.
What makes you think this, by the way? Just a gut feeling?
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I think this because there's no reason we shouldn't. We have new owners with deep pockets. A large payroll that realistically will trend upward with the rest of the league. We have greatly improved scouting and farm systems and we have a devoted fan base. If the front office is configured properly and puts together a good roster there's no reason that from where we stand right now, we should be unable to win it within a decade.
The counterargument is based upon curses, "Cubbie occurrences" and all the rest of that bullshit I pay no attention to.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
The crushing weight of history is a real thing. Alex Gonzalez felt it when a routine DP ball rolled in his direction.
<!--QuoteEnd--></div><!--QuoteEEnd-->
Well then, the Cubs will never win it since the crushing weight of history just keeps getting heavier with each failed year. If it was too much 7 years ago what hope is there now. This franchise might as well cease to exist. Put it and us out of our collective misery because the history is just too fucking daunting.
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That sums up how I'm feeling pretty well, actually.
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It's a fait accompli. What's the point. I guess you can move to England where baseball will not be there to remind you of the wasted emotions and years of heartache that crushed your spirit. Why be mocked every year when some other team wins it all, especially the god damned white sox. Every spring will open the wound, every fall will pour in the salt. Life... meaningless... wasted... futile.
Will it happen in your lifetime? - rok - 07-27-2010
Nope. Never.
I am a sick individual though, because in spite of that belief, I am a lifer.
Will it happen in your lifetime? - biggz - 07-27-2010
<!--quoteo(post=108228:date=Jul 27 2010, 01:05 PM:name=jstraw)-->QUOTE (jstraw @ Jul 27 2010, 01:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->The crushing weight of history is nonsense.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
I don't know. People think, and overthinking occurs frequently, even at the most inopportune times.
And I offer my humble apologies for the lack of dick jokes in this post.
Will it happen in your lifetime? - Coldneck - 07-27-2010
<!--quoteo(post=108233:date=Jul 27 2010, 02:10 PM:name=rok)-->QUOTE (rok @ Jul 27 2010, 02:10 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}><!--quotec-->Nope. Never.
I am a sick individual though, because in spite of that belief, I am a lifer.<!--QuoteEnd--><!--QuoteEEnd-->
To be fair, that's not REALLY why you're a sick individual.